S Y Scotia - 1902-04 Antarctic Expedition

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Just another update, Glasgow University Archives have advised that they have no drawings.

Have contacted G L Watson again, I originally filled in one of their online forms which seems to have gone astray, followed it up with an email on Monday, and they replied and promised to search their archives. NMM Greenwich seemed pretty certain that they will have the refit drawings for purchase, only hope these include hull line drawings. Derek

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seems like they're being as useful as they can be.

lets hope they come through for you Derek.

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Hi Colin,

Just heard from G.L. Watson, disappointingly they do not hold any plans of the S.Y. Scotia. I have 4-Aircraft and 2-Helicopters in my stash to complete, so when finished I will look at this again, there are a few Auxiliary Steam Whalers built in Aberdeen in the late 19th century which look very similar to the Scotia, and have similar dimensions also, so all is not lost. Watch this space as they say. Derek

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Hi Laurie, Thought I would update you.There is supposed to be an excellent book, see below which is supposed to give a wealth of detail for the Marine Modeller, but at £65 for paperback and £230 for hardback, I am reluctant to commit sight unseen.

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Finally there are plans available, see bottom of website page for 'Auxiliary Barque Rigged Whaler' (Auxiliary Barque Rigged Whaler - Elevation and Plans of Each Deck. | Brown, Son and Ferguson Ltd - Nautical Publishers, Printers and Ships Stationers) of a vessel similar to the RRS Discovery, but since the Discovery and Scott's other ship the SS Terra Nova were significantly longer than the SY Scotia I will see what if anything Glasgow and Greenwwich come up with first.

Will update you again. Cheers Derek

Derek it may be worth having a word with the Librarian at your Public Library. Ours will look up & try to find if they are available in the central library.

Laurie

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Thanks Laurie,

I might invest in the paperback edition of this book later on, I have one or two contacts who may have this book; in the meantime I am contacting the Aberdeen City Archivist, I understand they have plans of some old ships, The Aberdeen Maritime Museum(AMM) do not go back as far as 1845. The Aberdeen built 'Eclipse' is very similar in size and configuration to the Scotia, see photo of a model below displayed in the AMM. The Scotia had additional Laboratories housed on deck, and of course kennels for the dogs. Derek

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p.s. Looks as if they found your King.

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Some sucess at last. I have finally found the Plans; the following organization holds the plans for the SY Scotia.

The Thomas H Manning Polar Archives

Scott Polar Research Institute

University of Cambridge

Lensfield Road

Cambridge

CB2 1ER

They advised that the Plans are reproduced in the following book.

"The Log of the Scotia" by William Speirs Bruce,

edited by Peter Speak published in 1992 by Edinburgh University Press

ISBN 0 74860293 3

the plans are reproduced on pages 40 to 51

Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions during my search.

Cheers Derek

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Some good news this morning, found out my bid on ebay for the above book was successful at a price much lower than Amazon and others. Waiting for delivery now, there are apparently 12 pages of drawings of the vessel and hopefully some photos too. Will advise further when received. Derek

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Received the Book this week, very pleased with its condition as it was second hand. Looks like a rarely borrowed library book.

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Glad to see that the hull profiles are their, also one for the Whaling Boat. There are a few high quality photos included.

I am going ahead with the project, but wont't open a build log yet as I have to decide the scale, then produce a few drawings, research materials available and obtain some photos of the deck area, as the drawings in the book are for the Ships Hull, Superstructure and some Winches but no detailed deck fittings such as Dog Kennels etc. Cheers Derek

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Right I have taken the plunge and decided to cannibalize a kit, as I did with my recent Trawler. The kit I have chosen in order to get most of the building materials and fittings is the Constructo's 'Le Pourquoi-pas', Scale 1:80 which was a Research Vessel. My Wife has kindly offered to give me this for Christmas. I got a real bargain with it, Cornwall Model Boats wanted £189.98; Amazon wanted £145.48, and I have seen it on other sites for £202.50. I got it from 'hobbystores' for £105.99 with free 48Hr TNT Express delivery included.

Constructo Le Pourquoi-Pas? - 80835 | HobbyStores

It arrived last night, my wife let me have a quick look at it; it's in a strong suitcase hinged open top type cardboard box with all the wood and fittings in plastic compartments - looks very impressive at first glance. Here are a few publicity shots of an assembled kit.

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This is a Stamp showing the S.Y. Scotia.

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The LBP and Beam are very close to the Scotia and of course it is a Steam Yacht as was the S.Y. Scotia. The scale is smaller than I would have preferred, but I think this is a more practical and economical approach. Buying individual fittings would cost more than this kit. Its plank on frame construction.

Plan to start it mid-2013, so will open an 'Under Construction' then, with photos of the Kit. Cheers Derek

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Have now had a look at this Kit, which my Wife gave me as a X-mas present, and will do a review of the kit, in case anyone is interested in it or the quality of 'Constructo' kits in general. See the link below. Cheers Derek

http://www.scale-models.co.uk/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=91

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Well after all the research you've done on the Scotia i would imagine you know her inside out and i'm really looking forward to seeing the build come together.