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  • Ian M
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    • Dec 2008
    • 18271
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #5296
    Originally posted by Waspie
    I was involved with an alarm in the early 70's. (Least said and all that).
    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
    Don’t believe everything you read
    Dear Tim and Doug.
    Could you please refrain from cluttering Chris's thread with trips down memory lane.
    Group builds

    Bismarck

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    • boatman
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      • Nov 2018
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      • christopher
      • NORFOLK UK

      #5297
      Originally posted by boatman
      An hi John an Andy well ive found the four yr journey went very quick indeed as to me it doesnt seem that long ago since i was cuttin out her keel an hull frames an yes i hope to get all them bugs sorted out but its a job to know which motors to get as they will have to be fairly powerfull to propel her on the pond esp if there is a strong wind an then i maybe back to blowin fuses so instead of 40 amp fuses i'll have to get some 50 amp fuses an hope it dont catch fire which will be right up J/R 's street lol :rolling: :smiling2: so really its all gonna be trail an error mostly error i think boy ive never had this kind of trouble before as i could then buy the groupner 600 motors easy but now they have stopped makin them i will have to take pot luck on some new motors an in this case it may be that the motor shaft wont line up with the prop shaft then more probs
      but will see what happens
      cheers to you both
      chrisb
      G/M ALL well regardin them big fuses well i spoke to the gent who sent me them fuses an yes i can return them for a refund but he told me that 40 amp fuses is the highest they go in the standard size so no 50 amp or more so even if i fit new motors an if it still blows the 40 amp fuses due to her wheight on propload im stuck unless i do away with fuses altogether an just hope that the eletrics will take this very high currant well the ESC X 2 I KNOW SHOULD as they are rated at 320 amp so they should be ok but the wirein even though its very heavy duty an the motors may have probs SO just got to hope she dont catch fire oh dear but will see an hope for the best
      chrisb

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      • JR
        • May 2015
        • 18273

        #5298
        Originally posted by boatman
        G/M ALL well regardin them big fuses well i spoke to the gent who sent me them fuses an yes i can return them for a refund but he told me that 40 amp fuses is the highest they go in the standard size so no 50 amp or more so even if i fit new motors an if it still blows the 40 amp fuses due to her wheight on propload im stuck unless i do away with fuses altogether an just hope that the eletrics will take this very high currant well the ESC X 2 I KNOW SHOULD as they are rated at 320 amp so they should be ok but the wirein even though its very heavy duty an the motors may have probs SO just got to hope she dont catch fire oh dear but will see an hope for the best
        chrisb
        Chris
        Did you say. FIRE :nerd:

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        • stillp
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          • Nov 2016
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          • Pete
          • Rugby

          #5299
          Chris, you could change the fuseholder for the larger type: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_(automotive)
          I'm surprised that the motors are drawing enough current to blow 40A fuses though. A typical fuse needs double its rated current for up to 5 seconds to blow.
          Pete

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          • boatman
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            • christopher
            • NORFOLK UK

            #5300
            Originally posted by John Race
            Chris
            Did you say. FIRE :nerd:
            AHHA i thought that would arouse you J/R :rolling: :tongue-out3::smiling2:an yes there is a possibilty
            chrisb

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            • JR
              • May 2015
              • 18273

              #5301
              Originally posted by boatman
              AHHA i thought that would arouse you J/R :rolling: :tongue-out3::smiling2:an yes there is a possibilty
              chrisb
              Well we wouldn't want that in reality Chris.
              Sure you will sort it out

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              • boatman
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                • christopher
                • NORFOLK UK

                #5302
                Originally posted by stillp
                Chris, you could change the fuseholder for the larger type: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_(automotive)
                I'm surprised that the motors are drawing enough current to blow 40A fuses though. A typical fuse needs double its rated current for up to 5 seconds to blow.
                Pete
                HI Pete no i dont really like the idea of doin away with the fuses so i may keep these big fuses but i need a fuse box for thes big fuses do you know where i can find a big fuse holder ? or i may just solder the wires to the blades but not keen on that idea
                chrisb

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                • Waspie
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 3488
                  • Doug
                  • Fraggle Rock

                  #5303
                  Originally posted by boatman
                  HI Pete no i dont really like the idea of doin away with the fuses so i may keep these big fuses but i need a fuse box for thes big fuses do you know where i can find a big fuse holder ? or i may just solder the wires to the blades but not keen on that idea
                  chrisb
                  Would it be possible to use a fuse holder from a car!!
                  Maybe a trip to a local scrap yard with a selection of useful tools!! Hammer, jemmy, or something equally as destructive - but useful!!
                  No way would soldering fuses into the circuit!!:flushed:

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                  • stillp
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                    • Pete
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                    #5304
                    Originally posted by boatman
                    HI Pete no i dont really like the idea of doin away with the fuses so i may keep these big fuses but i need a fuse box for thes big fuses do you know where i can find a big fuse holder ? or i may just solder the wires to the blades but not keen on that idea
                    chrisb
                    Halfords, or any local car parts shop.

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                    • stillp
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                      #5305
                      Do the larger fuses fit into standard 1/4" push-on connectors?
                      Pete

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                      • boatman
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                        • christopher
                        • NORFOLK UK

                        #5306
                        Originally posted by Waspie
                        Would it be possible to use a fuse holder from a car!!
                        Maybe a trip to a local scrap yard with a selection of useful tools!! Hammer, jemmy, or something equally as destructive - but useful!!
                        No way would soldering fuses into the circuit!!:flushed:
                        HI Doug well all the car scrap yards around here are all closed up as 90% of us car drivers have fairly new cars so the scrap yards have all closed im sad to say as i use to enjoy havin a look around the scrap yards for bits of my old car an no im not goin to solder the wires on as sent for a proper maxi big fuse holder
                        So that will get fitted in the ship along side my normal fuse box so i will have the best of both worlds an i think i'll keep all these big fuses just in case i do need them as tiger is a very heavy model an movin her in the water must take a good bit of power an i may need to buy some bigger props but will see on that on sept warship day an cheers for your ideas
                        chrisb

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                        • boatman
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                          • christopher
                          • NORFOLK UK

                          #5307
                          OH HELL Pete im not thinkin this morn proberly got to much sun from on the beach yesterday but ive sent for a big fuse holder off ebay an paid a couple of quid more but never mind
                          Originally posted by stillp
                          Do the larger fuses fit into standard 1/4" push-on connectors?
                          Pete
                          AN YES Pete i thought of that an no the fuse blades are bigger as i was thinkin along them lines of usein them to make my own fuse holder which would have been easy but no shot down in flames again but ive just ordered one an my idea will be to leave in the normal fuse holder an fit the new big fuse holder along side it an then fit spade connecters so i can just unclip the wires from the normal fuse box an clip the main feed wire into the big fuse holder an have the same idea on the other side to feed power through a heavy duty
                          Y lead to both the 320 amp ESC 'S THEN TO ALL 4 MOTORS hows that ?
                          chrsb

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                          • stillp
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                            #5308
                            I still think that the root of the problem is why the motors are drawing so much current. Are the propshafts turning freely Chris?
                            It must be getting pretty hot inside the hull. Do you have any way of recording the temperature? Maybe a greenhouse min/max thermometer? I sued to have a pile of little stick-on discs that change colour at a particular temperature, but they've all gone now. Something like these: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/tempe...labels/7799779
                            Pete

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                            • boatman
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                              • christopher
                              • NORFOLK UK

                              #5309
                              Originally posted by stillp
                              I still think that the root of the problem is why the motors are drawing so much current. Are the propshafts turning freely Chris?
                              It must be getting pretty hot inside the hull. Do you have any way of recording the temperature? Maybe a greenhouse min/max thermometer? I sued to have a pile of little stick-on discs that change colour at a particular temperature, but they've all gone now. Something like these: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/tempe...labels/7799779
                              Pete
                              HI Pete yes the prop shafts turn very easy so they not the probs an the big apetures in the hull sides have a back on but no top so the wind or air can blow through freely an there is a small fan nr the base of the second funnel that is running all the while suckin cool air into the hull an then a big 3 inch fan that i can work by R/C EVERY few mins so coolin should not be a problem an thank you for info on them sticks an ive been told that i am wirein up the batt wrong as i always fit the neg then the positive the off in revese is this correct ? an the 3 mm led in the gun is workin ok thank goodness an when paul looked it seems that the gunfire unit has to have about a 5 second delay before the gunfire an gun flash so my mate paul must have been lookin at it when it was in delay an also one of the probs i had up the pond was a dodgey r/c plug on the BIG RUDDER BUT GOES OK NOW AS FITTED A NEW ONE an out of the 20 plug leads i had when fitting it i had to go an pick a bad one just my luck an i also fixed the bowthruster now workin ok so all i need now is the motors then im back in bussiness an tiger can come out of drydock yay
                              chrisb

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                              • stillp
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                                #5310
                                Originally posted by boatman
                                ive been told that i am wirein up the batt wrong as i always fit the neg then the positive the off in revese is this correct ?
                                There isn't a circuit until both are connected, so it doesn't make any difference which you connect first.
                                Pete

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