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  • JR
    • May 2015
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    #376
    Thanks Chris, looking fwd to the tests then !

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    • boatman
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      • Nov 2018
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      • christopher
      • NORFOLK UK

      #377
      Originally posted by John Race
      Thanks Chris, looking fwd to the tests then !
      YEA I am John an there will be severall test in the test tank eg. 1st a pressure test to see weather the hull leaks under pressure as the hull will be overloaded on her W/L an she will be left in the water for 3hrs cause if no water in her hull by then she will pass but so far all the models ive built have a tiny leak somewhere which is easyly cured by pourin resin into the affected erea . 2nd test will be stability she must be pulled over to 45 degrees an let go an she must right herself within 5 rolls if not then a counter balance wheight will need to be fitted to the half inch of exsposed keel that I designed into her when I cut out the keel. 3rd test hull joint strength with batts fitted in the hull an with the jen's help the hull must then be lifted gently out of the water an then given a severe jolt an then listen for any crackin sounds if there is then I will need to pour some more resin into the hull floor right where the batts will be against the hull joint to give it extra strength but so far all my models have passed this test with only a small amount of resin fitted in the hull nr the joint in the first place .BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A FIRST TIME isn't there. Ive been told by my boaty chums that I over test my models BUT when I build a model I exspect it to last at least 20 yrs or so an its proven as my friend has got my HMS EDINBUGH TYPE 42 DESTROYER that I built back in 2002 an he still sails her up at Norwich pond so I think im justified to do my testing well that's it sorry to bore you all with the test details
      chris

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        #378
        Originally posted by boatman
        YEA I am John an there will be severall test in the test tank eg. 1st a pressure test to see weather the hull leaks under pressure as the hull will be overloaded on her W/L an she will be left in the water for 3hrs cause if no water in her hull by then she will pass but so far all the models ive built have a tiny leak somewhere which is easyly cured by pourin resin into the affected erea . 2nd test will be stability she must be pulled over to 45 degrees an let go an she must right herself within 5 rolls if not then a counter balance wheight will need to be fitted to the half inch of exsposed keel that I designed into her when I cut out the keel. 3rd test hull joint strength with batts fitted in the hull an with the jen's help the hull must then be lifted gently out of the water an then given a severe jolt an then listen for any crackin sounds if there is then I will need to pour some more resin into the hull floor right where the batts will be against the hull joint to give it extra strength but so far all my models have passed this test with only a small amount of resin fitted in the hull nr the joint in the first place .BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A FIRST TIME isn't there. Ive been told by my boaty chums that I over test my models BUT when I build a model I exspect it to last at least 20 yrs or so an its proven as my friend has got my HMS EDINBUGH TYPE 42 DESTROYER that I built back in 2002 an he still sails her up at Norwich pond so I think im justified to do my testing well that's it sorry to bore you all with the test details
        chris
        Hi Chris not boring at all the opposite actually very interesting I bet there's not many people on here that know how to test model boats of that size and as for over testing it's yours and all that work could be for nothing could be possible to have pictures of the test.
        Pete.

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        • boatman
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          • Nov 2018
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          • christopher
          • NORFOLK UK

          #379
          Originally posted by Pete Low
          Hi Chris not boring at all the opposite actually very interesting I bet there's not many people on here that know how to test model boats of that size and as for over testing it's yours and all that work could be for nothing could be possible to have pictures of the test.
          Pete.
          HI Pete yes I will show some pics of the tests when it happens but it wont be before some time nxt year as she has got to have about 6 coats of primer paint then about 3 coats of the top colours eg. 3 coats of spray red anti foul on the hull bottom then 3 coats on the top of the hull in humbroll spray matt light grey no64
          then the matt black water line painted on her then the penant no.s C 20 fitted on the hull then draught marking an then about 4 coats of clear matt varnish if I can still get it to make her paint work more proof against the water pressure as she cuts through the waves. but im stuck on her at the moment now as she really needs to have another sprayin of primer on the hull but cant do this as its to cold to spray at the moment so until it gets warmer
          no can do so i'll have to do some work on her stabilizer's an rudder eg. sandin them all down only 6 stabs an 1 rudder to do so that should keep me busy for a while then i'll start tryin to work on her eletrics to see where things are gonna go BOY I ONLY HOPE IM STILL SANE AT THE END OF THIS :smiling::smiling::smiling:LOL
          chris

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            #380
            Originally posted by boatman
            HI Pete yes I will show some pics of the tests when it happens but it wont be before some time nxt year as she has got to have about 6 coats of primer paint then about 3 coats of the top colours eg. 3 coats of spray red anti foul on the hull bottom then 3 coats on the top of the hull in humbroll spray matt light grey no64
            then the matt black water line painted on her then the penant no.s C 20 fitted on the hull then draught marking an then about 4 coats of clear matt varnish if I can still get it to make her paint work more proof against the water pressure as she cuts through the waves. but im stuck on her at the moment now as she really needs to have another sprayin of primer on the hull but cant do this as its to cold to spray at the moment so until it gets warmer
            no can do so i'll have to do some work on her stabilizer's an rudder eg. sandin them all down only 6 stabs an 1 rudder to do so that should keep me busy for a while then i'll start tryin to work on her eletrics to see where things are gonna go BOY I ONLY HOPE IM STILL SANE AT THE END OF THIS :smiling::smiling::smiling:LOL
            chris
            Hi Chris the jury is still out on the last comment :smiling5::tongue-out2::tongue-out3:.
            Pete.

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            • boatman
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              • christopher
              • NORFOLK UK

              #381
              An talkin about the test tank tests I was with my friends up at Norwich pond a few yrs ago an a gent ive never seen before pulls up just a little away fron us an he had a really nice frigate or a destroyer I think it was about 6ft long an we all sat talkin an watchin this gent put his ship in the pond an it floated lovely looked really great an as we were watchin he opens her up an sails straight into the middle of the pond an then turns straight to strb an then she rolls straight over an sinks the only bit visable was the bow stickin out of the water as there is all ways air trapped in that section an we all ran up to him an said whats happened an he says it just sunk an I said dint you do any test on her in a test tank an he says NO we were flabbergasted that model cost him over a £1000 an he just took his shoes an socks off an went into the pond to retrive the model with water all pourin out of it an we never saw him again OH DEAR poor devil
              chris

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                #382
                Originally posted by boatman
                An talkin about the test tank tests I was with my friends up at Norwich pond a few yrs ago an a gent ive never seen before pulls up just a little away fron us an he had a really nice frigate or a destroyer I think it was about 6ft long an we all sat talkin an watchin this gent put his ship in the pond an it floated lovely looked really great an as we were watchin he opens her up an sails straight into the middle of the pond an then turns straight to strb an then she rolls straight over an sinks the only bit visable was the bow stickin out of the water as there is all ways air trapped in that section an we all ran up to him an said whats happened an he says it just sunk an I said dint you do any test on her in a test tank an he says NO we were flabbergasted that model cost him over a £1000 an he just took his shoes an socks off an went into the pond to retrive the model with water all pourin out of it an we never saw him again OH DEAR poor devil
                chris
                Just goes to show a little time spent now will save heartache later and the wallet.
                Pete.

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                • boatman
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                  • christopher
                  • NORFOLK UK

                  #383
                  Just goes to show a little time spent now will save heartache later and the wallet.
                  Pete. (QOUTE )
                  You are so right pete if he'd done some balance tests on the model he would have found it was unstable an been able to do something about it but that's life I suppose:disappointed::sad:
                  chris

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                  • tr1ckey66
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                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3592

                    #384
                    You've really got your work cut out Chris. As you say, this build will be keeping you busy a long while! Will be worth the effort though.
                    Cheers
                    P

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                    • boatman
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                      • christopher
                      • NORFOLK UK

                      #385
                      An while im on the subject of tests an such it goes to show the importants of havin a fitted in line fuse rated for the electronics as again up Norwich pond we sat whatchin a nice huntsman motor yacht hammerin up an down the lake an before we knew it it stopped smoke started to rise out of the hull an then it caught fire an the gent managed to get the firey hull into the edge an an swampted it with water to put out the flames an I knew the gent as he was a model shop owner but not anymore as its closed down now but I said to him dint you have a main fuse fitted in it an again he said no so more money up the shoot an we hav'nt seen him anymore either funny ole world aint it
                      chris
                      Originally posted by tr1ckey66
                      You've really got your work cut out Chris. As you say, this build will be keeping you busy a long while! Will be worth the effort though.
                      Cheers
                      P
                      HI Paul yes I will have my work cut out but this is not really work to me its play an enjoyment as seein what i can create on the days when building from the plan an bring it into being real. Basicily from just raw materials an yes it will keep me busy for a few yrs as i hate gardening as that's my wife's hobby an where i live theres not much eles to do an ive been modeling for nearly sixty odd yrs but i will never get fed up with it as what keeps me goin in this model world is thinking what the model will be like when its fininished an how it will sail thats an advencher in its self an i have collector 's waiting to buy my hms norfolk an also wanting for this one but will see on that in the future an have you done anything on your tank yet as hopein to see more pics of it ?

                      all best chris

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                      • tr1ckey66
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3592

                        #386
                        I can tell you‘re enjoying the build it shines through in your posts. And it‘s. a great way to while a way a few hours a day in you retirement. I’m envious, I’m still a ways of retirement myself but when I do I know I’ll be spending a lot of time at the bench.
                        It’s good you’ve got buyers for your completed ships. Any chance of a pic of Norfolk Before it goes?

                        I’ve just posted an update on the Panther - a bit of Zimm and the rear hull planned out. Take a look when you’ve a moment.

                        Looking forward to some more progress on Tiger and I’ll be here to witness the adventure unfold and see this beauty sail.
                        Cheers
                        Paul

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                        • boatman
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                          • christopher
                          • NORFOLK UK

                          #387
                          HI Paul the build of most of Norfolk is on this ships build thread if you look down an my big USS NIMITZ build
                          chris

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                          • boatman
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                            • Nov 2018
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                            • christopher
                            • NORFOLK UK

                            #388
                            HI GUYS another small up date on her
                            as I have finished fittin in the prop tubes an sharfts I thought whats next an that was she needed sprayin after all the saindin down but no can do as its to cold to spray the grey primer until the warmer wheather an that's months away. So I went off on to another little job on her an that's fittin the beadin around the hull apertures with 1mm wire Click image for larger version

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                            • boatman
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                              • christopher
                              • NORFOLK UK

                              #389
                              an here a close up shot Click image for larger version

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                              • boatman
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                                • christopher
                                • NORFOLK UK

                                #390
                                an here they all done on both sides an rear so whats next be glad when i can spray her grey primer 6 coatesClick image for larger version

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