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  • Mini Me
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    • Jun 2018
    • 10711

    #136
    Hi Tony 26 F. here and sunny after two days of nonstop snow....12" at least. If I were to do the railings, I would do them in sections but first I would make a template for each section using careful measurements of course. Each template would have marks on it to precisely locate each vertical and same for horizontals as well. The end verticals of each section must be independently located on the walk way at the proper angle first. Also, if you make the sections just a tad long then they can be trimmed to precisely fit between the end verticals in each section. If the railing is not going to be subjected to any handling or stress I would build it out of Evergreen plastic rod as it comes in lengths of 14 " Hope this is helpful....just my thoughts. Rick H.

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    • ozdell
      • Apr 2020
      • 365

      #137
      Originally posted by Mini Me
      Hi Tony 26 F. here and sunny after two days of nonstop snow....12" at least. If I were to do the railings, I would do them in sections but first I would make a template for each section using careful measurements of course. Each template would have marks on it to precisely locate each vertical and same for horizontals as well. The end verticals of each section must be independently located on the walk way at the proper angle first. Also, if you make the sections just a tad long then they can be trimmed to precisely fit between the end verticals in each section. If the railing is not going to be subjected to any handling or stress I would build it out of Evergreen plastic rod as it comes in lengths of 14 " Hope this is helpful....just my thoughts. Rick H.
      Hi Rick, it is 10pm your time and 8am here in down under SE/QLD overcast and raining no chance to get stuck into my layout construction , many thanks for the advice I will do what you suggested, making a jig and using evergreen plastic rod got plenty of, I have no plan to go by have to guess the right angle, will check up with the captain. going to be a stinker of a weekend that be all I able to do is work on my indoor hobbies , a question would I be able to water proof cardboard sheets using the the same reason used on large model flying planes and fine fiberglass . I am thinking of building the draft separately under the water line, my model is a water line model, . Take care and keep warm good to see the sun again .

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      • Mini Me
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        • Jun 2018
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        #138
        You already have the angle.........it is the same as the face of your bridge.....you have some great photos to work from. If you look at the angle of the railing and the angle of the windows on the starboard end, they are parallel. Also, looking at the first photo in this post, I can project that the height of the railing coincides with the bottom of the windows or maybe just a little higher....not enough to impair the view as that would not work well for the crew that are navigating this vessel. Reminder: The railing is only angled at the Pilot house and at the port and starboard ends of the walk way, the rest of the railing is vertical to my eyes. Please correct me if I am in error. Rick H.

        ps. actually, it is 4:45 pm

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        • ozdell
          • Apr 2020
          • 365

          #139
          Originally posted by Mini Me
          You already have the angle.........it is the same as the face of your bridge.....you have some great photos to work from. If you look at the angle of the railing and the angle of the windows on the starboard end, they are parallel. Also, looking at the first photo in this post, I can project that the height of the railing coincides with the bottom of the windows or maybe just a little higher....not enough to impair the view as that would not work well for the crew that are navigating this vessel. Reminder: The railing is only angled at the Pilot house and at the port and starboard ends of the walk way, the rest of the railing is vertical to my eyes. Please correct me if I am in error. Rick H.

          ps. actually, it is 4:45 pm
          Evening Rick H , many thanks for that awesome advice on the the walkway handrails and angle, yes I will making a gig as the is only 10mm wide , will be wasting a bit of card to make the stanchions, be cutting them in one piece, probably .5 mm plastic card . The first two pics of how the bridge be sitting on top of the accommodation block just out by a couple of mm, not going to worry about that ,too much work to fix it, but I cut out the last window panel port side, can' stand to see the clear windows with glue marks on them


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          The last pic of Corona Sea, good pic of the rear window panel and the accommodation deck bridge deck, is a walkway and hand rails, going to fix that window panel , Take care Tony from down under.

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          • boatman
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            • Nov 2018
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            • christopher
            • NORFOLK UK

            #140
            HI Tony yea Ricks advise is good but looking at an studying your bridge layout picture by rights the side's front walkways are on the top of the main S/S all you have to do is place your bridge in the corret postion on the main S/S an by rights the main S/S will be the walkway on the sides an the add a walkway width around the front small bridge useing gussets to support it easy peasy as lookin at the pic thats how it looks to me any way can you please Tony show a pic from top veiw looking down on the top of the bridge so i can see if thats how it should be an how you have built it ? PS Tony look at the next page for a diogram
            chris

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            • boatman
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              • Nov 2018
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              • christopher
              • NORFOLK UK

              #141
              Tony below in the rough quick drawing is how i see your bridge layout all it seems to me i that your top bridge floor is cut too short so you will have too extend the bridge floor right up to the main S/S front an there you will have your walkway an then as i say in the diogram extend the small bridge over hang an fit supports gussets underneath any way the diogram its not a 100% right as i havnt got a top veiw of your bridge hope this helps you
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              • boatman
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                • Nov 2018
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                • christopher
                • NORFOLK UK

                #142
                YEA Tony lookin again at your main bridge pic of your build you have gone a bit wrong this is not criisuim of your build its just an observation but you have cut the bridge floor right where the the front bridge windows will be where as really you should have taken the foor right to the front of the main S/S an that would be your walkway an then just built the bridge window up on the floor sorry i dont mean to be rude here
                chris

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                • ozdell
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 365

                  #143
                  Originally posted by boatman
                  Tony below in the rough quick drawing is how i see your bridge layout all it seems to me i that your top bridge floor is cut too short so you will have too extend the bridge floor right up to the main S/S front an there you will have your walkway an then as i say in the diogram extend the small bridge over hang an fit supports gussets underneath any way the diogram its not a 100% right as i havnt got a top veiw of your bridge hope this helps you
                  chris [ATTACH]414512[/ATTACH]
                  Hi Chris, great drawing, here is a plan of my ships bridge and I am pretty right console doesn't stick out that far, what do you reckon the walk way be 10 mm in HO scale, sadly doesn't show on the plan

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                  I am waiting for the captain to re-join Jutlandia Sea first week of March, he said he will take those needed pics, just looking at the plan the yellow line past the window is the walkway Tony from down under

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                  • ozdell
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 365

                    #144
                    Originally posted by boatman
                    YEA Tony lookin again at your main bridge pic of your build you have gone a bit wrong this is not criisuim of your build its just an observation but you have cut the bridge floor right where the the front bridge windows will be where as really you should have taken the foor right to the front of the main S/S an that would be your walkway an then just built the bridge window up on the floor sorry i dont mean to be rude here
                    chris
                    Hi Chris, will be taking Rick's and your advice on the walkway hand rails, got a very good pic of the sister ship owned by Finish company Finbreeze, not keep to put thr pic because of copyright can't see any marks not taking the chance, will send you an email Chris . I replaced the bad window panel looks dam good, in the first pic I forgot to line up the centre mark out a few mm's and can see all the decks, I still have to brace up the cross beams . At the end can see the walkway access to the accommodation deck a set of steps on both levels .

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                    Last two pics of the bridge in place , heaps of work still ahead , getting there , a couple of hot days coming up and rain after that, wont get much of a chance to get back to the layout, went down to the shed before tea and marked where the fist station module be going. Tony from down under on a high

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                    • boatman
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                      • Nov 2018
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                      • christopher
                      • NORFOLK UK

                      #145
                      OK Tony but in your second pic you have got to to add the deck right up to the front main S/S so two big holes to cover over if you get my meaning but its comin on well
                      chris

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                      • ozdell
                        • Apr 2020
                        • 365

                        #146
                        Originally posted by boatman
                        OK Tony but in your second pic you have got to to add the deck right up to the front main S/S so two big holes to cover over if you get my meaning but its comin on well
                        chris
                        Hi Chris, yeah I will be cutting out the roof pretty soon as I finish the bridge construction , the bridge be glued too so I can have access to the LED lighting, the actually cabin windows are that flush windows like on locos be fun to cut out and fit with out making too much mess, the windows wont be clear type.
                        Tony

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                        • boatman
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                          • Nov 2018
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                          • christopher
                          • NORFOLK UK

                          #147
                          WEL Tony from what i can see is if you extend the bridge floor to the front of the main S/S you will be right as from what i can see looking at the ship pic the walkway is not raised off the deck all i can see is the walkway bein difined by the railing an tryin to fit the window glass in flush well you will need to do it on each window an thats where ive always come unstuck as there may be glue smearded onto the glass so i just fit one long lenght in side the bridge an glue lightly top an bottom an yes my glass is a light green acetate as ships have this colour fitted to cut down the suns glare off the sea but good luck on fitting the windows flush as remember Tony it only takes one tiny little glue smear to ruin the whole bridge an on my warships the glass is set back in the frames as its toughened glass to withstand nrby exsploshions
                          chris

                          ps tony another bit im a bit confused on is what you said below
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                          the bridge be glued too so I can have access to the LED lighting,

                          SO tony if you glue the bridge glued do you mean down to the deck if so how will you have access to the LEDS ? as im missing something in your thinking here again Tony sorry dont mean to be rude
                          chris

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                          • ozdell
                            • Apr 2020
                            • 365

                            #148
                            Originally posted by boatman
                            WEL Tony from what i can see is if you extend the bridge floor to the front of the main S/S you will be right as from what i can see looking at the ship pic the walkway is not raised off the deck all i can see is the walkway bein difined by the railing an tryin to fit the window glass in flush well you will need to do it on each window an thats where ive always come unstuck as there may be glue smearded onto the glass so i just fit one long lenght in side the bridge an glue lightly top an bottom an yes my glass is a light green acetate as ships have this colour fitted to cut down the suns glare off the sea but good luck on fitting the windows flush as remember Tony it only takes one tiny little glue smear to ruin the whole bridge an on my warships the glass is set back in the frames as its toughened glass to withstand nrby exsploshions
                            chris

                            ps tony another bit im a bit confused on is what you said below
                            (tony quote)
                            the bridge be glued too so I can have access to the LED lighting,

                            SO tony if you glue the bridge glued do you mean down to the deck if so how will you have access to the LEDS ? as im missing something in your thinking here again Tony sorry dont mean to be rude
                            chris
                            Hi Chris, what I mean is if you look at that pic, I should of said that the roof panel that fits inside, the actual bridge be glued to that panel so them I will have access to LED lights if I fit them in. That is ok didn't explain it well , a hell of a lot of work still ahead , I will have a break off the ship build, probably work on the bridge tomorrow as it is going to be a stinker or of a day 40 degrees outside, worked on the spitfire blow you away just posted some update pics , Tony

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                            • ozdell
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 365

                              #149
                              Here is the question confusing pic again, the roof panel that fits flush underneath bridge be glued to that panel, will keep the bridge in place as well will lift out for access.

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                              I have some fixing up to do on below the rope room near where the anchor fits, didn't match well, luckily with cardboard can be an easy fix do that job later.
                              Tony from hot down under

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                              • ozdell
                                • Apr 2020
                                • 365

                                #150
                                Finely closed in to roof of the front accommodation deck , can lift the bridge out when working on the bridge .


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                                The lucky last pic of the main deck, I had trouble getting a square length od dowel out of the keel was to large lifting up the deck, was happy indeed, I now can finish off the bow section upper deck and top deck, plan to wire in led lighting , on a big high ., Tony from down under

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