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  • Dave Ward
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    • Apr 2018
    • 10549

    #181
    I would guess the most famous photo with studded chains.........................
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    Dave

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    • JR
      • May 2015
      • 18273

      #182
      Well worth the extra effort Carl.

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      • boatman
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        • Nov 2018
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        • christopher
        • NORFOLK UK

        #183
        Originally posted by Dave Ward
        I would guess the most famous photo with studded chains.........................
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        Dave
        YEA ITS MR BRUNNEL ?

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        • Jim R
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          • Apr 2018
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          • Jim
          • Shropshire

          #184
          Hi Carl
          Coal grates and rigging are looking very good.
          Jim

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          • Tim Marlow
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            • Apr 2018
            • 18901
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #185
            IKB eh! Victorian self assurance at its best. When he designed the GWR main line from Bristol to London he arranged it so that the sun shines through box tunnel on his birthday!

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            • BattleshipBob
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              • Apr 2018
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              • Bob
              • Cardiff

              #186
              Great work Carl, makes me wonder what i have let myself in for lol

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              • Defiant911
                • Feb 2020
                • 640

                #187
                Originally posted by Bobthestug
                Great work Carl, makes me wonder what i have let myself in for lol
                I think the fact that I have only done short sessions when I can fit around work has made it easier going in that some of the more tedious task as mentioned are spread out. To be fair, those coal grates are not going to be on many ships so this is probably an exception. I guess the rigging is quite taxing but again I’ve just done little bits at a time and it soon takes shape.
                live looked at HMS Hood and visually it looks easier to build compared to HMS Dreadnought but only time will tell.
                Either way, I need some more relaxing build next so will most likely Build the P-61 Black Widow.

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                • stillp
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                  • Nov 2016
                  • 8093
                  • Pete
                  • Rugby

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  IKB eh! Victorian self assurance at its best. When he designed the GWR main line from Bristol to London he arranged it so that the sun shines through box tunnel on his birthday!
                  Thus giving rise to the expression "That Isambard, the sun shines out of his boxhole". Something like that anyway.
                  Pete

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                  • BattleshipBob
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 6792
                    • Bob
                    • Cardiff

                    #189
                    Originally posted by stillp
                    Thus giving rise to the expression "That Isambard, the sun shines out of his boxhole". Something like that anyway.
                    Pete
                    Never heard it called that!!

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                    • Tim Marlow
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                      • Apr 2018
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                      • Tim
                      • Somerset UK

                      #190
                      He wasn’t that good....apparently he got the alignment wrong and it’s four days out LOL....

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                      • BattleshipBob
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                        • Apr 2018
                        • 6792
                        • Bob
                        • Cardiff

                        #191
                        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                        He wasn’t that good....apparently he got the alignment wrong and it’s four days out LOL....
                        Sounds like trains round here l

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                        • Dave Ward
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                          • Apr 2018
                          • 10549

                          #192
                          Carl,
                          HMS Hood was oil fired - just connect up a few pipes & there you go! Only warships really went through the horrors of coaling - their armour plating meant that you couldn't have large convenient holes in the side to get the coal through! Merchant ships didn't have that problem & passenger ships had purpose built chutes, so they could load coal faster & cleaner! - Which is why the older coal fired ships had such large crews!.
                          As an aside, the limiting factor of speed in the early destroyers wasn't the engines, or the hull form - it was the strength & stamina of the stokers! You only had a limited number of stokers - If you had more stokers, the ship had to be bigger, and the coal bunkers became more widespread. So as coal was used up, the trimmers had more difficulty in supplying coal to the stokers. Running at full speed would quickly exhaust the stokers ( and I'm talking about hours, not days! ). One of the main reasons that destroyers were oil fired pretty quickly
                          Dave

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                          • Defiant911
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 640

                            #193
                            Originally posted by Dave Ward
                            Carl,
                            HMS Hood was oil fired - just connect up a few pipes & there you go! Only warships really went through the horrors of coaling - their armour plating meant that you couldn't have large convenient holes in the side to get the coal through! Merchant ships didn't have that problem & passenger ships had purpose built chutes, so they could load coal faster & cleaner! - Which is why the older coal fired ships had such large crews!.
                            As an aside, the limiting factor of speed in the early destroyers wasn't the engines, or the hull form - it was the strength & stamina of the stokers! You only had a limited number of stokers - If you had more stokers, the ship had to be bigger, and the coal bunkers became more widespread. So as coal was used up, the trimmers had more difficulty in supplying coal to the stokers. Running at full speed would quickly exhaust the stokers ( and I'm talking about hours, not days! ). One of the main reasons that destroyers were oil fired pretty quickly
                            Dave
                            Yep, who’d want that job now a days..

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                            • Dave Ward
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                              • Apr 2018
                              • 10549

                              #194
                              As a follow up..................
                              The destroyers, before being accepted by the Navy had to run speed trials. There were cash bonuses for every .25 knot above the contract speed, and penalties & even rejection below .
                              The builders used to employ specially trained teams of stokers, and literally hand picked the optimum size chunks of best Welsh steam coal, to give them the best chance of gaining bonuses!
                              Dave

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                              • Nicko
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                                • Apr 2019
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                                • Nick
                                • East Anglia

                                #195
                                Really interesting bit of education for me there Dave. Thanks.

                                Nick

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