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  • adt70hk
    SMF Supporters
    • Sep 2019
    • 10433

    #76
    Originally posted by rtfoe
    Pete would appreciate the compliment Andrew. :smiling2:

    Cheers,
    Richard
    You're More than welcome Richard. As always amazing work on display.

    ATB.

    Andrew

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    • Tim Marlow
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 18932
      • Tim
      • Somerset UK

      #77
      Originally posted by rtfoe
      Thanks guys,

      Tim, meaning they are positioned on the outer side of the stanchions?

      Cheers,
      Richard
      Yes mate. If you look closely at your picture they run in front of the stanchion, not behind it, and then are tied at the top to the rail, then at the bottom to the gunwales. Not trying to give you extra work, but I know you like to get things spot on

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      • rtfoe
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 9101

        #78
        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
        Yes mate. If you look closely at your picture they run in front of the stanchion, not behind it, and then are tied at the top to the rail, then at the bottom to the gunwales. Not trying to give you extra work, but I know you like to get things spot on
        Thanks Tim, good thing it's not glued down yet and can be removed and wrapped on the outside. Will have to remeasure slightly bigger to fit.

        Cheers,
        Richard.

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        • Tim Marlow
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 18932
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #79
          Originally posted by rtfoe
          Thanks Tim, good thing it's not glued down yet and can be removed and wrapped on the outside. Will have to remeasure slightly bigger to fit.

          Cheers,
          Richard.
          I think they need to be strips down the sides, not U shaped Richard

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          • rtfoe
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 9101

            #80
            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
            I think they need to be strips down the sides, not U shaped Richard
            Which means I will have a gap between the stanchion arms and gunwhales?

            Cheers,
            Richard

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            • Tim Marlow
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 18932
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #81
              Originally posted by rtfoe
              Which means I will have a gap between the stanchion arms and gunwhales?

              Cheers,
              Richard
              Have a look at your reference picture on page three again Richard. I’m struggling to explain it clearly in words :loudly-crying: I think the gunwales may be a bit skinny to do this though.

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              • rtfoe
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 9101

                #82
                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                Have a look at your reference picture on page three again Richard. I’m struggling to explain it clearly in words :loudly-crying: I think the gunwales may be a bit skinny to do this though.
                Or my stanchions too wide :tears-of-joy: ...not going to be too accurate so will wrap under as well but will still file a groove for the stanchion bottom to fit flush as they sit too proud. On the Surprise they look tied to the inside of the stanchions.

                Cheers,
                Richard

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                • papa 695
                  Moderator
                  • May 2011
                  • 22771

                  #83
                  Just looked through this for the first time Richard, looking extremely good, liking all the extra work going into in too. Keep up the great work.

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                  • Tim Marlow
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18932
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #84
                    Here is a different view Richard. Netting outside, but a definite gap between net and gunwale….and two different heights depending upon location…..
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                    Starting to wonder if some of this is just to stop modern visitors falling over the side to be honest LOL….

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                    • wotan
                      SMF Supporters
                      • May 2018
                      • 1150

                      #85
                      Richard

                      Great persistence and some fine detail. The only minor detail is that the stanchions in the photos are much narrower than yours so the outside of the netting is approximately flush with the sides of the gunwales. If I were you I were you I would lower the stanchions as you have suggested and run the netting round the bottom of the stanchions to connect with the gunwales.

                      John

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                      • rtfoe
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 9101

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                        Here is a different view Richard. Netting outside, but a definite gap between net and gunwale….and two different heights depending upon location…..
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                        Starting to wonder if some of this is just to stop modern visitors falling over the side to be honest LOL….
                        Tim, I thought the same at first as looking at the netting they are horizontal and not diamond in shape as the British ones on Surprize and other Constitution models built. Even the gun covers are black when the Imai instructions call for red on the insides. The Imai kit lines are also different. So going with artistic license and covering the bottom.
                        Thanks for highlighting though.

                        Cheers,
                        Richard

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                        • rtfoe
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 9101

                          #87
                          Originally posted by wotan
                          Richard

                          Great persistence and some fine detail. The only minor detail is that the stanchions in the photos are much narrower than yours so the outside of the netting is approximately flush with the sides of the gunwales. If I were you I were you I would lower the stanchions as you have suggested and run the netting round the bottom of the stanchions to connect with the gunwales.

                          John
                          Thanks John. Yup, am going with that and hope it looks better. Also lowering the stanchions will scale it down a little. Much easier to install the mesh that way too with two halves. Actually once I add the hammocks you can't see the bottom.

                          Cheers,
                          Richard

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                          • rtfoe
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 9101

                            #88
                            Okay the stanchions are dug down and mesh CAd down. I've thread the wire rope through and will be making more. Thanks Jim for the suggestion.
                            To prevent anything falling through and be supported I think the netting should be on the supported side and not on the weaker outside. Some builds show it this way but am stumped why the restored Constitution netting is tied that way...perhaps Americans just want to do it differently. There are lesser points to tie too.
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                            No gaps underneath...definitely overscaled but works for me. Looks like I'm not going for accuracy but busy detail.
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                            Starting to like building this again and noticed I have installed the side stays for the rigging. I thought I lost one of those in the flood but apparently not.

                            Cheers,
                            Richard

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                            • papa 695
                              Moderator
                              • May 2011
                              • 22771

                              #89
                              Great work with the netting Richard.

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                              • Tim Marlow
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 18932
                                • Tim
                                • Somerset UK

                                #90
                                That’ll do the job alright :thumb2: Nice one!

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