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  • BattleshipBob
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    • Apr 2018
    • 6804
    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #211
    It may bounce mind!!

    Been taking out the old desk ready for the bigger one which arrives tomorrow. So chance to hoover up the dust and to answer your ?? No, those bl**dy barrels have vanished, asked the cats, they just wiggled there whiskers!

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    • Steve Brodie
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      • Sep 2014
      • 4652

      #212
      looking very good

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      • BattleshipBob
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        • Apr 2018
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        • Bob
        • Cardiff

        #213
        Originally posted by Steve Brodie
        looking very good
        Thank you Steve, way to go

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        • BattleshipBob
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          • Apr 2018
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          • Bob
          • Cardiff

          #214
          Well, now both modelling rooms are up and running its time for my biggest fear, PE.

          Now for many of you these bits are very easy but me, no! Added a simple 'shelf' with supports and a small walkway with simple railings. Cleaned first, then used a fibreglass pen to get a good contact surface.
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          These fitted OK and I am fairly happy, but the same parts on the other side were a total nightmare. Did not mind what I did they would not stick, did exactly the same as the other side but no! Cleaned off the ca, tried again and again. Took over an hour, aarrgghh
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          They finally fitted,although the railings broke off.

          What the hell am I doing wrong??? Is it best to put ca on the plastic OR the PE? I was using a small pool of ca then either dipping the PE in or running the edge through it. But on 2 occasions some ca got onto the tweezers and yes stuck the PE to them, my nerves are shot lol

          Tried using a cocktail stick to dab PE onto the PE edge, no! Very nearly gave up, but a coffee and brickie helped.

          This bit was easy lol
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          I know it's me but it's very frustrating, really thought of giving up but I must conquer PE as most of the kits have PE sets!! Me thinks more and more practice on scrap is needed. Hopefully my nails will grow back soon!

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          • Mickc1440
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            • Apr 2018
            • 4779

            #215
            Well done for fighting on Bob, that PE is minuscule. Strange how some things just give up and stick first time while others are a constant battle for no good reason

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            • BattleshipBob
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              • Apr 2018
              • 6804
              • Bob
              • Cardiff

              #216
              Originally posted by Mickc1440
              Well done for fighting on Bob, that PE is minuscule. Strange how some things just give up and stick first time while others are a constant battle for no good reason
              Thanks Mick, just wish the guys who plaster some things with PE would not do a step by step lesson!

              Might try tacking into place with pva, then try to wick in CA with a looper. If not hide behind the sofa!!

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              • Mark1
                • Apr 2021
                • 4156

                #217
                PE is definitely frustrating! Takes as long as it takes, gave up thinking ill have that done in an hour lol, i use the loctite gel for pe not had to much of problem with things not sticking.

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                • Tim Marlow
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                  • Apr 2018
                  • 18932
                  • Tim
                  • Somerset UK

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Bobthestug
                  Thanks Mick, just wish the guys who plaster some things with PE would not do a step by step lesson!

                  Might try tacking into place with pva, then try to wick in CA with a looper. If not hide behind the sofa!!
                  I’ve had the same issues, in fact, I think we probably all have Bob :tongue-out3:
                  Another approach is a bit more old school. Five minute epoxy is reliable, giving a better bond as well, but you need to use blue tack to hold the PE in place while it sets…….takes a bit of forward planning so you have several joints ready to go at a time to minimise glue waste, but it might be worth a crack…..

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                  • BattleshipBob
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    • Bob
                    • Cardiff

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Mark1
                    PE is definitely frustrating! Takes as long as it takes, gave up thinking ill have that done in an hour lol, i use the loctite gel for pe not had to much of problem with things not sticking.
                    Oh yes!!

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                    • BattleshipBob
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 6804
                      • Bob
                      • Cardiff

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                      I’ve had the same issues, in fact, I think we probably all have Bob :tongue-out3:
                      Another approach is a bit more old school. Five minute epoxy is reliable, giving a better bond as well, but you need to use blue tack to hold the PE in place while it sets…….takes a bit of forward planning so you have several joints ready to go at a time to minimise glue waste, but it might be worth a crack…..
                      Hi Tim, one to think of?

                      I use thin CA, should I use thicker CA?

                      Ideally I should use masking tape to hold in place then a looper to fix. I have a clamp normally used for wooden ships so that might be handy to hold bigger stuff while I try to fix pe.

                      Will get out the scrap plastic first

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                      • Tim Marlow
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                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18932
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #221
                        Originally posted by Bobthestug
                        Hi Tim, one to think of?

                        I use thin CA, should I use thicker CA?

                        Ideally I should use masking tape to hold in place then a looper to fix. I have a clamp normally used for wooden ships so that might be handy to hold bigger stuff while I try to fix pe.

                        Will get out the scrap plastic first
                        I’ve found loctite gel CA more reliable, but it can leave residue that needs clean up. On larger PE parts, like schurtzen, I use epoxy as the main adhesive, but hold the part in place while the glue dries using CA. Give blue tack a go Bob, it’s easier to use than tape, and is infinitely flexible.

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                        • BattleshipBob
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                          • Apr 2018
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                          • Bob
                          • Cardiff

                          #222
                          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                          I’ve found loctite gel CA more reliable, but it can leave residue that needs clean up. On larger PE parts, like schurtzen, I use epoxy as the main adhesive, but hold the part in place while the glue dries using CA. Give blue tack a go Bob, it’s easier to use than tape, and is infinitely flexible.
                          Cheers Tim

                          Time for more practice

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                          • scottie3158
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Paul
                            • Holbeach

                            #223
                            The only thing I can suggest is if you can scratch the pe and the kit where it will go with the tip of a modelling knife to give the surface a key. I also use a sticky pen to pick the small pieces up. It isn't easy mate but it will be worth it.

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                            • BattleshipBob
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                              • Apr 2018
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                              • Bob
                              • Cardiff

                              #224
                              Originally posted by scottie3158
                              The only thing I can suggest is if you can scratch the pe and the kit where it will go with the tip of a modelling knife to give the surface a key. I also use a sticky pen to pick the small pieces up. It isn't easy mate but it will be worth it.
                              Hi Paul

                              Sound advice, thanks. Bought the Big Ed set for the Arizona, so need to sort things out, asap lol

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                              • Allen Dewire
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                                • Apr 2018
                                • 4741
                                • Allen
                                • Bamberg

                                #225
                                Originally posted by Bobthestug
                                Might try tacking into place with pva, then try to wick in CA with a looper. If not hide behind the sofa!!
                                Not a good idea 'Admiral' Bob. If you hide behind the sofa, most of the time the parts will end up getting stuck there and not on the ship model. Just take your time, follow the guy's advice, take a deep breath and you will finally succeed with PE. But......Then you have to have to be extra careful when handling the parts afterwards so not to ping them off again.......

                                Prost
                                Allen
                                Life's to short to be a sheep...

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