Brian's 1/100 HMS Victory

[Bri62]

Is there an easy way to get the rigging all the same length ........struggling!!

[wotan]

Looks like you're doing OK to me. If it's not too late I would suggest that you attach the retaining ropes on the guns to the bulwark at a level about half way up the gun port.

John

[Bri62]

If it's not too late I would suggest that you attach the retaining ropes on the guns to the bulwark at a level about half way up the gun port.

There already glued in place John don't really want to break them off

Got them off redo them tomorrow

[Bri62]

Better?
Needs weathering !

[boatman]

LOOKIN GOOD Bri with them cannons an the details are great looks like a lot of work there which i could not do so well done sir
chrisb

[Bri62]

LOOKIN GOOD Bri with them cannons an the details are great looks like a lot of work there which i could not do so well done sir

Thx Chris not easy for me either and I got the main rigging to do yet.

[wotan]

Nice one Brian

[andy55]

Looking really good. The cannon look better with the ropes higher. Watching with interest. :smiling2:

[stillp]

Meant to post this earlier in case it helps:

Pete

[Tim Marlow]

Good grief that’s complex. I know the large cable on the Cascabel was to stop the cannon running back too far after firing. In this case the gun would skew sideways wouldn’t it? The thinner line and block was for running the gun back out after loading. Not sure about the medium gauge line and block though? I assume it was for securing the gun during rough seas? If so, would it be removed in action because it makes the gun very difficult to access for loading?

[Tim Marlow]

Sorry Brian, you’ll hate me for this…..but after looking at it in conjunction with Pete photo, shouldn’t your restraining lines on the gun cascabels have slack in them? As modelled the crew wouldn’t be able to get the guns back inboard to reload the cannon or close the ports.

[Andy the Sheep]

Good grief that’s complex. I know the large cable on the Cascabel was to stop the cannon running back too far after firing. In this case the gun would skew sideways wouldn’t it? The thinner line and block was for running the gun back out after loading. Not sure about the medium gauge line and block though? I assume it was for securing the gun during rough seas? If so, would it be removed in action because it makes the gun very difficult to access for loading?

My guess is that the medium gauge line was meant to traverse the gun...

[Bri62]

Sorry Brian, you’ll hate me for this…..but after looking at it in conjunction with Pete photo, shouldn’t your restraining lines on the gun cascabels have slack in them? As modelled the crew wouldn’t be able to get the guns back inboard to reload the cannon or close the ports.

The rope isn't pliable enough any longer and it looks daft plus everything is so small not at all like a 4 ton cannon

[Waspie]

Good grief that’s complex. I know the large cable on the Cascabel was to stop the cannon running back too far after firing. In this case the gun would skew sideways wouldn’t it? The thinner line and block was for running the gun back out after loading. Not sure about the medium gauge line and block though? I assume it was for securing the gun during rough seas? If so, would it be removed in action because it makes the gun very difficult to access for loading?

My bold!! Looking at the position of the medium line, it may be for controlling the sideways yawing of the canon when fired.
In true naval tradition they certainly knew how to complicate things!! But it must have worked having evolved over centuries of dominating the seas!!

[wotan]

The gun shown in Pete's photo looks a little odd to me. The medium sized line I think is the line used to pull back the gun when it is initially loaded or unloaded. I suspect that it would unhook from the bulwark and then hook on to something midships to provide purchase. This may be hooked on to the bulwark during fighting since the area behind the gun is constricted by what appears to be some columns. In addition it only seems to be on one side of the carriage. If you look at the next gun down the deck it does not appear to have the same arrangement. you would not need lines to yaw the gun since it could be moved with a trail spike like on land.

This appears to be one of the heavier guns since it has two breech ropes to control the recoil.

When I have built model ships of the line I have always simplified this rigging since a) It's very tedious to do, and b) working this small with cords they rarely flex enough to look realistic.

John