Scale Model Shop

Collapse

Brian's 1/100 HMS Victory

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Bri62
    SMF Supporters
    • Jan 2023
    • 1890
    • Brian
    • Widnes Cheshire

    #181
    Originally posted by Waspie
    Obviously not a sailor!! I joined and was sent to HMS Ganges - part of the training was to get to the first yard, 65 feet, and then over the devils elbow!! Where you go outboard on the rigging to get to the second yardarm!! Pretty scary S*** I can tell you!!
    Ganges Mast
    Spare a thought for the button boy

    Comment

    • Waspie
      • Mar 2023
      • 3488
      • Doug
      • Fraggle Rock

      #182
      Originally posted by Bri62
      Spare a thought for the button boy
      Indeed, a very brave lad!! Deserved his shilling or whatever he was given for standing up there. 142 feet on a circular 8 inch bit of wood!!! With only a tiny lightening conductor to steady him!!!

      Comment

      • Bri62
        SMF Supporters
        • Jan 2023
        • 1890
        • Brian
        • Widnes Cheshire

        #183
        For those who don't know what a button boy is

        Comment

        • stillp
          SMF Supporters
          • Nov 2016
          • 8097
          • Pete
          • Rugby

          #184
          There's no way I could do that. I get dizzy standing on a thick carpet!
          Pete

          Comment

          • Bri62
            SMF Supporters
            • Jan 2023
            • 1890
            • Brian
            • Widnes Cheshire

            #185
            upper deck fitted didn't want to go in terrible fit tbh

            Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG20231204150741.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	5.5 KB
ID:	1213959Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG20231204150747.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	5.3 KB
ID:	1213960Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG20231204150754.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	4.7 KB
ID:	1213961Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG20231204150838.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	5.3 KB
ID:	1213962Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG20231204150842.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	4.9 KB
ID:	1213963Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG20231204150850.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	4.7 KB
ID:	1213964

            Comment

            • Waspie
              • Mar 2023
              • 3488
              • Doug
              • Fraggle Rock

              #186
              Bri, that is coming along brilliantly.

              Comment

              • Tim Marlow
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 18932
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #187
                Looking great Brian. That deck, poor fit or not, has lifted her another notch.
                Oh, and when looking at the Ganges mast, remember that one is fixed. At sea Victory’s masts would be moving in all three planes (pitch, yaw and roll) as well as going up and down….and the top men would be working hauling in sails or ropes at the same time. Not at all the same as standing there trying to look pretty LOL.

                Comment

                • Waspie
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 3488
                  • Doug
                  • Fraggle Rock

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  Looking great Brian. That deck, poor fit or not, has lifted her another notch.
                  Oh, and when looking at the Ganges mast, remember that one is fixed. At sea Victory’s masts would be moving in all three planes (pitch, yaw and roll) as well as going up and down….and the top men would be working hauling in sails or ropes at the same time. Not at all the same as standing there trying to look pretty LOL.
                  Obviously never been up the Ganges Mast then Tim. I appreciate it's not fixed but it does move and quite significantly.
                  Something I learned about vessels the like of Victory, Masters would have the masts orientation moved so as to trim the vessel when under sail. The masters would angle the masts fore or aft dependant on how they wanted the vessel trimmed. (Wedges in the base of the mast root I believe).

                  Comment

                  • wotan
                    SMF Supporters
                    • May 2018
                    • 1150

                    #189
                    Waspie

                    You're right about the small adjustments to the masts, The hole in the deck which the mast goes through is called the partners, and by loosening or tightening wedges around the partners the mast could be adjusted. The shrouds could also be tightened or loosened (Rattled down) to stiffen the mast. Typically in a strong blow the weather shrouds would be tightened and the lee shrouds slackened a bit to bend the mast into the wind. It was also the job of the quartermaster (sailing master) to ensure that there were no sharp movements in the vessel, as far as possible, while hands were out on the yards.

                    John

                    PS Brian its looking very nice with the new deck. I hope you have left enough access to get the shot garlands filled in the lower deck. That is putting the round shot into each of the little holes around the lower deck gratings.

                    Comment

                    • Waspie
                      • Mar 2023
                      • 3488
                      • Doug
                      • Fraggle Rock

                      #190
                      Originally posted by wotan
                      Waspie

                      You're right about the small adjustments to the masts, The hole in the deck which the mast goes through is called the partners, and by loosening or tightening wedges around the partners the mast could be adjusted. The shrouds could also be tightened or loosened (Rattled down) to stiffen the mast. Typically in a strong blow the weather shrouds would be tightened and the lee shrouds slackened a bit to bend the mast into the wind. It was also the job of the quartermaster (sailing master) to ensure that there were no sharp movements in the vessel, as far as possible, while hands were out on the yards.

                      John

                      PS Brian its looking very nice with the new deck. I hope you have left enough access to get the shot garlands filled in the lower deck. That is putting the round shot into each of the little holes around the lower deck gratings.
                      Thank you John, that's a better explanation than the one I read. All this seamanship stuff has made me want to search the loft for my old seamanship manual!! (Being FAA it was of little interest then, starting to get a feel for the sailing ships). Just transferred some Patrick O'Brian books to my Kindle!!!

                      Comment

                      • stillp
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 8097
                        • Pete
                        • Rugby

                        #191
                        Here's an interesting link: https://www.nmrn.org.uk/hms-victory-conservation-log

                        Comment

                        • Tim Marlow
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18932
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #192
                          Originally posted by Waspie
                          Thank you John, that's a better explanation than the one I read. All this seamanship stuff has made me want to search the loft for my old seamanship manual!! (Being FAA it was of little interest then, starting to get a feel for the sailing ships). Just transferred some Patrick O'Brian books to my Kindle!!!
                          You’ll like the Obrians, they are excellent reading.

                          Comment

                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18932
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #193
                            Originally posted by stillp
                            Very interesting reading. Thanks Pete.

                            Comment

                            • Bri62
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Jan 2023
                              • 1890
                              • Brian
                              • Widnes Cheshire

                              #194
                              Originally posted by wotan
                              Brian its looking very nice with the new deck. I hope you have left enough access to get the shot garlands filled in the lower deck. That is putting the round shot into each of the little holes around the lower deck gratings.
                              Yes John I can get them in no problem

                              Comment

                              • scottie3158
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 14221
                                • Paul
                                • Holbeach

                                #195
                                It was very interesting to read about the masts being trimmed. I thought they were just fixed solidly to take the strain on them caused by full sail or the pitch of the ship.

                                Comment

                                Working...