HKM 1/32 Boston test prints.

[rtfoe]

That’s not my understanding of the Spanish School. When I first got back I to the hobby I bought and read a book by JM Villalba (a mate of Mig Jiminez) that promotes this style of modelling.

For one thing it is not all about armour and very much applies to aircraft and neither is it just about heavy weathering.

It is about highlights and shadows. It shuns the more traditional highlighting method of dry brushing in favour of highlighting with a fine brush for instance. Outlining detail, carefully applying paint, not washes, into detail to create shadow, painting a highlight along a pipe or edge, modulating a base colour and so on. Washes are still used, of course as is dry brushing but these are not the almost universal panacea that they are elsewhere.

There is a lot more to it than that, of course and it was a long time ago since I read it.

Yes, that's the technique many never understood or mastered. Usually it was misapplied and overly used on everything without thinking of how the subject got to that state in the first place. You have to know how to paint or know the play of light to master it. Sometimes you get lucky. :smiling2: And sometimes it looks like an antic.

Cheers,
Wabble

[rtfoe]

Anyway it's been said that the stressed detail is just too consistent throughout the test print and should be in specific areas. I wonder if styles of manufacturing played a factor. When did laminated glued skins start making an appearance as opposed to pure riveting thin sheets of aluminium?
Ww2 bombers weren't pressurised unlike the B29.

Cheers,
Wabble.

[Mini Me]

Kindly tell me why is the B52 skin like this and its still not grounded
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Wikki says its a form of buckling of the skin that happens in flight and poses no harm. There are some images on ground as well.:smiling2:

Cheers,
Wabble

I'm not saying it does not occur I'm saying it is a sign of weakness or structural failure.......if it continues to happen and goes unchecked there will be other more severe consequences. I suspect in this particular case this aircraft is both climbing and under hard acceleration trying to put out the fire on #3and4 engines in an emergency maneuver that would exponentially increase the loading of both wings and the nose section as the flight path is being changed to a new attitude. If you wish to model this ......have fun, but it is not your everyday in aviation and it is certainly not acceptable practice to ignore these conditions when they manifest themselves.

[Tim Marlow]

That’s not my understanding of the Spanish School. When I first got back I to the hobby I bought and read a book by JM Villalba (a mate of Mig Jiminez) that promotes this style of modelling.

For one thing it is not all about armour and very much applies to aircraft and neither is it just about heavy weathering.

It is about highlights and shadows. It shuns the more traditional highlighting method of dry brushing in favour of highlighting with a fine brush for instance. Outlining detail, carefully applying paint, not washes, into detail to create shadow, painting a highlight along a pipe or edge, modulating a base colour and so on. Washes are still used, of course as is dry brushing but these are not the almost universal panacea that they are elsewhere.

There is a lot more to it than that, of course and it was a long time ago since I read it.

Basically applying the techniques that figure painters have been using for decades to inanimate objects then :tongue-out3:

Done well it looks excellent, no doubt about that at all. However, it isn’t always done well. Done badly, as it so often is, it makes objects with a working life of a few months at best look like they have been in use for decades…..

[Guest]

That’s not my understanding of the Spanish School.

I think it depends on who you talk to, mainly: whether they like the overall effect it produces, or not. Me, I think models like these are well-painted, but that the weathering that usually goes with it, is very much overdone.

[stona]

Just look at any photo of Lancasters for one thing.

I must have looked at hundreds and it is not by any means ubiquitous. I would say the majority show no signs of the sort of deformation in that molding at all, but then they didn't usually survive very long.

With an overall operational loss rate over 2.2% for the Lancaster, well, do the maths. (156,192 sorties, 3,677 losses).

More Allied aircrew died on the night of the infamous Nuremberg raid (545) than in the entire Battle of Britain.

Sometimes the loss rate was higher, even prohibitive. Bomber Command lost 1,117 aircraft in the Battle of Berlin alone (3.8% or sorties flown) plus another 113 in operational crashes! That's the period 18 November '43 to 31 March '44. It was a defeat admitted even in the official history.

ED888 on the occasion of completing it's 131st mission. An old Lancaster and survivor.



ED905 with 99 missions.

[flyjoe180]

I've only seen rippling skin effects on pressurised aircraft that are long in the tooth. Those ripples on the B-52 skin disappear once the aircraft is pressurised at altitude. I've seen ripples on 737 skins that do the same thing. If you really look hard you can see skin deformation between rivet lines on lightly built non-pressurised aircraft. I think the model Boston's skin effect is exaggerated. Looks like a nice kit otherwise.

[rtfoe]

I've only seen rippling skin effects on pressurised aircraft that are long in the tooth. Those ripples on the B-52 skin disappear once the aircraft is pressurised at altitude. I've seen ripples on 737 skins that do the same thing. If you really look hard you can see skin deformation between rivet lines on lightly built non-pressurised aircraft. I think the model Boston's skin effect is exaggerated. Looks like a nice kit otherwise.

Yup, perhaps it should be toned down. I would sand those to the preferable scale rather than building it up with putty or grinding the panel lines and re-riveting everything just to get the effect. I have seen those slight indentations around riveted panels on light aircraft but not much on the latest fighter jets although I have seen some with duck tape to certain damages... another for the discussion.

Cheers,
Wabble