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  • Flip
    SMF Supporters
    • Jul 2022
    • 257
    • John
    • Speyside

    #1

    Roden 1:144 Boeing RC-135V/W Rivet Joint - Inbox Review

    Just received the Roden 1:144 Boeing RC-135V/W Rivet Joint (Kit No.349) and was prompted by Dave Ward to leave a review. Here goes...

    Box: Thin-gauge, top-opening 370mm x 240mm x 46mm with artist's depiction of aircraft.

    No declaration of finished model size, but can be calculated from the details on Page 1

    Instructions: Single A3 sheet flat-folded to form 4 pages.

    Page 1 gives background and specifications
    Page 2 is the sprue map & symbol list
    Pages 3 & 4 are the assembly steps

    Painting & Decalling:
    A separate A4 sheet gives this info...


    Decal Sheet:

    The flags on this are incorrect.
    There is also a break in Decal 11 (the LH red line) - this is as-printed since the carrier film is intact.
    Caracal Models will be releasing a decal sheet (including RAF options) in September 2022 (Caracal Part No. CD144026)

    Sprues:
    Frames A & B cover the wings:

    The trailing edges of all 4 wingroots are deformed by 90 degrees from the normal. I thought this might be due to insufficient mould release agent as the first three points I inspected (two on Frame A and one on Frame B were on the same side as the ejector pin marks) but the fourth point is on the external side. I guess it is still technically feasible.

    Frame C covers the 2 fuselage halves:

    Note of caution here:
    The port half has antennae moulded integrally - the forward one is thin and delicate and I have already caught it during basic handling

    There is some flash to be dealt with, e.g.

    and are thin, so handling will need to be borne in mind. Also, the edges need a bit of TLC...


    There is also evidence that the moulders have been tidying up as it came off the tool:


    Frame D covers the main undercart, some antennae and the antennae heads:

    There are 8x 11D on the sprue yet the instructions invoke 12x (Steps 2, 9 and 10).
    Step 9 is incorrect - the 5x 11D along the top of the fuselage should be 5x 3D
    There are also 2x 13D on this sprue that are not invoked anywhere in the instructions and, as yet, I cannot find a home for them.

    Frame E (there are two of these) cover the engines

    Parts 7E (there are 4 in total) have a large (+) web in the middle - these will have to be cut out:


    Frame F covers the remaining grey plastic parts and is home to a few errors:

    Instructions Step 5 calls up parts 22F(16F) for the main undercarriage doors. This should read "22F(19F)"
    Instructions Step 6 calls up parts 22F(16F) for the small undercarriage doors. This should read "15F(16F)"
    Instructions Step 9 calls up parts 4F for the starboard horizontal stabiliser. This should read "1F"
    Instructions Step 9 depicts the nose wheel undercarriage door but does not give a part number. This should read "7F"

    Also worth noting, for those who want to build this aircraft with the wheels in the down position, the main undercart doors (19F & 22F) will both have to be bent at 90 degrees in 2 places (See Step 10)


    Frame G covers the clear parts
    Two cockpit canopies are included but only 2G is called up (the one with the wider nose).
    Clarity is not good...

    I'm no expert as to whether this can be polished out, but I'll have a go.

    I think this just about covers everything I have found or worked out. I'm not claiming that this is exhaustive but I do hope it will be of some use to others.
    Attached Files
  • Dave Ward
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 10549

    #2
    Originally posted by Flip
    Just received the Roden 1:144 Boeing RC-135V/W Rivet Joint (Kit No.349) and was prompted by Dave Ward to leave a review. Here goes...

    Box: Thin-gauge, top-opening 370mm x 240mm x 46mm with artist's depiction of aircraft.
    [ATTACH alt="Box Art.JPG"]460963[/ATTACH]
    No declaration of finished model size, but can be calculated from the details on Page 1

    Instructions: Single A3 sheet flat-folded to form 4 pages.
    [ATTACH alt="Instructions P1.JPG"]460965[/ATTACH][ATTACH alt="Instructions P2.JPG"]460966[/ATTACH][ATTACH alt="Instructions P3.JPG"]460967[/ATTACH][ATTACH alt="Instructions P4.JPG"]460968[/ATTACH]
    Page 1 gives background and specifications
    Page 2 is the sprue map & symbol list
    Pages 3 & 4 are the assembly steps

    Painting & Decalling:
    A separate A4 sheet gives this info...
    [ATTACH alt="Painting & Decalling.JPG"]460969[/ATTACH]

    Decal Sheet:
    [ATTACH alt="Decal Sheet.JPG"]460970[/ATTACH]
    The flags on this are incorrect.
    There is also a break in Decal 11 (the LH red line) - this is as-printed since the carrier film is intact.
    Caracal Models will be releasing a decal sheet (including RAF options) in September 2022 (Caracal Part No. CD144026)

    Sprues:
    Frames A & B cover the wings:
    [ATTACH alt="Frame A_B.JPG"]460971[/ATTACH]
    The trailing edges of all 4 wingroots are deformed by 90 degrees from the normal. I thought this might be due to insufficient mould release agent as the first three points I inspected (two on Frame A and one on Frame B were on the same side as the ejector pin marks) but the fourth point is on the external side. I guess it is still technically feasible.

    Frame C covers the 2 fuselage halves:
    [ATTACH alt="Frame C.JPG"]460972[/ATTACH]
    Note of caution here:
    The port half has antennae moulded integrally - the forward one is thin and delicate and I have already caught it during basic handling

    There is some flash to be dealt with, e.g.
    [ATTACH alt="Vulnerable antenna plus flash.JPG"]460973[/ATTACH]
    and are thin, so handling will need to be borne in mind. Also, the edges need a bit of TLC...
    [ATTACH alt="Thin Tail.JPG"]460974[/ATTACH]

    There is also evidence that the moulders have been tidying up as it came off the tool:
    [ATTACH alt="Tail Inner 1.JPG"]460975[/ATTACH][ATTACH alt="Tail Inner 2.JPG"]460976[/ATTACH]

    Frame D covers the main undercart, some antennae and the antennae heads:
    [ATTACH alt="Frame D.JPG"]460977[/ATTACH]
    There are 8x 11D on the sprue yet the instructions invoke 12x (Steps 2, 9 and 10).
    Step 9 is incorrect - the 5x 11D along the top of the fuselage should be 5x 3D
    There are also 2x 13D on this sprue that are not invoked anywhere in the instructions and, as yet, I cannot find a home for them.

    Frame E (there are two of these) cover the engines
    [ATTACH alt="Frame E_E.JPG"]460978[/ATTACH]
    Parts 7E (there are 4 in total) have a large (+) web in the middle - these will have to be cut out:
    [ATTACH alt="Removable Webbing.JPG"]460979[/ATTACH]

    Frame F covers the remaining grey plastic parts and is home to a few errors:
    [ATTACH alt="Frame F.JPG"]460980[/ATTACH]
    Instructions Step 5 calls up parts 22F(16F) for the main undercarriage doors. This should read "22F(19F)"
    Instructions Step 6 calls up parts 22F(16F) for the small undercarriage doors. This should read "15F(16F)"
    Instructions Step 9 calls up parts 4F for the starboard horizontal stabiliser. This should read "1F"
    Instructions Step 9 depicts the nose wheel undercarriage door but does not give a part number. This should read "7F"

    Also worth noting, for those who want to build this aircraft with the wheels in the down position, the main undercart doors (19F & 22F) will both have to be bent at 90 degrees in 2 places (See Step 10)
    [ATTACH alt="Main Undercart Doors.JPG"]460981[/ATTACH]

    Frame G covers the clear parts
    Two cockpit canopies are included but only 2G is called up (the one with the wider nose).
    Clarity is not good...
    [ATTACH alt="Frame G.JPG"]460982[/ATTACH]
    I'm no expert as to whether this can be polished out, but I'll have a go.

    I think this just about covers everything I have found or worked out. I'm not claiming that this is exhaustive but I do hope it will be of some use to others.
    John,
    good start! - It may be better to post the pictures full size, it's easier to read without having to click on each one to enlarge - You might like to add whether the model is easily obtainable & about how much it would set you back - :thumb2:
    Dave

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    • boatman
      SMF Supporters
      • Nov 2018
      • 14451
      • christopher
      • NORFOLK UK

      #3
      Originally posted by Dave Ward
      John,
      good start! - It may be better to post the pictures full size, it's easier to read without having to click on each one to enlarge - You might like to add whether the model is easily obtainable & about how much it would set you back - :thumb2:
      Dave
      YEA you are right Dave as i cant hardly see the pics
      chrisbmtb

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      • Flip
        SMF Supporters
        • Jul 2022
        • 257
        • John
        • Speyside

        #4
        Guys,
        How do I edit my post to put full-size pics in?
        John

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        • Flip
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2022
          • 257
          • John
          • Speyside

          #5
          Well, I just could not figure out how to edit, so I have re-posted with full-sized images. I also discovered how to re-orientate them to make it a bit more readable...

          Box: Thin-gauge, top-opening 370mm x 240mm x 46mm with artist's depiction of aircraft.
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Box Art.JPG
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ID:	1183096
          No declaration of finished model size, but can be calculated from the details on Page 1 (Wingspan 277mm, Length 272mm, Height 88mm)

          Instructions: Single A3 sheet flat-folded to form 4 pages.
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Instructions P1.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	4.7 KB
ID:	1183097
          Page 1 gives background and specifications

          Click image for larger version

Name:	Instructions P2.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	4.3 KB
ID:	1183098
          Page 2 is the sprue map & symbol list

          Click image for larger version

Name:	Instructions P3.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	4.4 KB
ID:	1183099
          Pages 3 & 4 are the assembly steps
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Instructions P4.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	4.4 KB
ID:	1183100

          Painting & Decalling:
          A separate A4 sheet gives this info...
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Painting & Decalling.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	4.9 KB
ID:	1183101

          Decal Sheet:
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Decal Sheet.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	5.4 KB
ID:	1183102
          The flags on this are incorrect.
          There is also a break in Decal 11 (the LH red line) - this is as-printed since the carrier film is intact.
          Caracal Models will be releasing a decal sheet (including RAF options) in September 2022 (Caracal Part No. CD144026)

          Sprues:
          Frames A & B cover the wings:
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Frame A_B.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	4.5 KB
ID:	1183103
          The trailing edges of all 4 wing roots are deformed by 90 degrees from the normal. I thought this might be due to insufficient mould release agent as the first three points I inspected (two on Frame A and one on Frame B were on the same side as the ejector pin marks) but the fourth point is on the external side. I guess it is still technically feasible.
          My son has also bought this kit and he has reported that only two of the points are deformed on his model.

          Frame C covers the 2 fuselage halves:
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Frame C.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	3.9 KB
ID:	1183104
          Note of caution here:
          The port half has antennae moulded integrally - the forward-most one is thin and delicate and I have already caught it during basic handling

          There is some flash to be dealt with, e.g.
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Vulnerable antenna plus flash.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	3.2 KB
ID:	1183105
          and the tail pieces are thin, so handling will need to be borne in mind. Also, the edges need a bit of TLC...
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Thin Tail.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	4.3 KB
ID:	1183106

          There is also evidence that the moulders have been tidying up as it came off the tool:
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Tail Inner 1.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	3.8 KB
ID:	1183107
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Tail Inner 2.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	2.8 KB
ID:	1183108

          Frame D covers the main undercart, some antennae and the antennae heads:
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Frame D.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	5.6 KB
ID:	1183109
          There are 8x 11D on the sprue yet the instructions invoke 12x (Steps 2, 9 and 10).
          Step 9 is incorrect - the 5x 11D along the top of the fuselage should be 5x 3D
          There are also 2x 13D on this sprue that are not invoked anywhere in the instructions and, as yet, I cannot find a home for them.

          Frame E (there are two of these) cover the engines
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Frame E_E.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	6.1 KB
ID:	1183110
          Parts 7E (there are 4 in total) have a large (+) web in the middle - these will have to be cut out:
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Removable Webbing.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	6.5 KB
ID:	1183111

          Frame F covers the remaining grey plastic parts and is home to a few errors:
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Frame F.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	5.2 KB
ID:	1183112
          Instructions Step 5 calls up parts 22F(16F) for the main undercarriage doors. This should read "22F(19F)"
          Instructions Step 6 calls up parts 22F(16F) for the small undercarriage doors. This should read "15F(16F)"
          Instructions Step 9 calls up part 4F for the starboard horizontal stabiliser. This should read "1F"
          Instructions Step 9 depicts the nose wheel undercarriage door but does not give a part number. This should read "7F"

          Also worth noting, for those who want to build this aircraft with the wheels in the down position, the main undercart doors (19F & 22F) will both have to be bent at 90 degrees in 2 places (See Step 10)...
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Main Undercart Doors.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	5.2 KB
ID:	1183113

          Frame G covers the clear parts
          Two cockpit canopies are included but only 2G is called up (the one with the wider nose).
          Clarity is not good...
          Click image for larger version

Name:	Frame G.JPG
Views:	1
Size:	5.2 KB
ID:	1183114
          I'm no expert as to whether this can be polished out, but I'll have a go.

          On the box, Roden place a lower age limit of 14 years. Generally the kit is well-moulded but, taking into account some of the points above, I would not recommend this kit for beginners of any age.
          The kit cost £41.95 at https://www.jadlamracingmodels.com/r...tic-model-kit/

          I think this just about covers everything I have found or worked out. I'm not claiming that this is exhaustive but I do hope it will be of some use to others.

          Thanks to Dave Ward and Boatman for their assistance.
          Regards,
          John

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          • boatman
            SMF Supporters
            • Nov 2018
            • 14451
            • christopher
            • NORFOLK UK

            #6
            HI i hope you are goin to build this an show on here
            chrisb

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            • Dave Ward
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 10549

              #7
              John,
              you can get an idea of how many modellers are interested, by the number of views! Some of mine have attracted as many as 14 views! - yours has over 30 - so I think you can call that a success!
              :thumb2: Dave

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              • Flip
                SMF Supporters
                • Jul 2022
                • 257
                • John
                • Speyside

                #8
                Originally posted by boatman
                HI i hope you are goin to build this an show on here
                chrisb
                :thinking: It will be a while yet - got the RNLI Lifeboat and the Breguet "Italian Eagle" before that
                Regards,
                John

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                • Flip
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jul 2022
                  • 257
                  • John
                  • Speyside

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave Ward
                  John,
                  you can get an idea of how many modellers are interested, by the number of views! Some of mine have attracted as many as 14 views! - yours has over 30 - so I think you can call that a success!
                  :thumb2: Dave
                  Dave,
                  You get an even share of the credit - help much appreciated.
                  Regards,
                  John

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