What's with my a/b

[Robert1968]

Try getting an Iwata Revolution as a minimum if you can if you are thinking of another AB.
John

Looking at Revolution what type though


I want dual control but hare side feeders hence why I have my neo ( sh### ) oops sorry bout that


Revolution

Sorry thats me being a idiot I just realised you said Revolution and not Evolution. I actually sold my wifes Iwata Revo to fund the H & S Evo as I looked into extensively and watched many videos. It's your choice at the end of the day but as I said the ease of maintenance did it for me.

Well after speaking to laurie I will await my birthday next month and invest in an eclipse bs as it sounds an all rounder and with Teflon nib protector it should be good with all paint media


Robert

[Guest]

I am surprised Laurie can spray at 8 psi. None of my airbrushes work properly at that sort of pressure.

Depends on what you are doing Steve. I have been using it to build up areas of differing subtle, I hope, colours. I used Lifecolor Acrylics not their Transform just the ordinary mix. 4 drops of Vallejo Flow improver about 6 drops thinners about 35% to 40% of the overall mix. The thin mix and low 8PSI enables great control over the amount of paint released which gives time, the all important advantage to build up paint as required. It is hardly noticeable that the paint film is building up. If at a greater PSI the paint would spew out at a greater rate and eventually spit and spurt.. It takes a long time to build a paint thickness which is ideal for effect work.


This is what I have achieved with the settings. Not an expert at this stuff this is just to illustrate what is achievable. The area shown is about 2" square It is the underside of a Jackal trying for a sand driven effect. Bit more work to be done yet.


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[PhilJ]

Looking at Revolution what type though
I want dual control but hare side feeders hence why I have my neo ( sh### ) oops sorry bout that


Revolution


Well after speaking to laurie I will await my birthday next month and invest in an eclipse bs as it sounds an all rounder and with Teflon nib protector it should be good with all paint media


Robert

Yeah looks like the same class and make up of the H & S Evo Silverline but without the option for detachable/different cup size, you probably won't be disappointed by the looks of things

[john i am]

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My iwata tr2 powered by the iwata smart jet pro which I can't recommend highly enough.. It sprays anything and everything at 20 psi for acrylic and about 12 psi for alclads.

It's never clogged spattered or splurged in the two years I've been using it .i hardly ever strip it down for cleaning just flush with cleaner after use.


And here we have my other tools which I've just had to fetch from the naughty cupboard and blow the dust of them to show them to you.I also have a neo (not in the picture) which as gone AWOL and will be executed on its return.


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So please don't do what I did and waste your money on these save up and pay the extra and get something decent. I promise you won't regret it.

[Robert1968]

Yep been ther and done that ( I bought 4 Chinese ones 2 Malaysian side drawer ones and they all end up in bits as spares but mainly in bin


So bought myself a neo ( genuine ) not a imported one but now it's time to play with the big boys toys now


May have to wait 3 week or so for my birthday and keep the boss happy ( wife) the boss the banker whatever you wish to demote your love as she's Defoe the boss in this household


Robert

[Guest]

Looking at Revolution what type though
I want dual control but hare side feeders hence why I have my neo ( sh### ) oops sorry bout that


Revolution


Well after speaking to laurie I will await my birthday next month and invest in an eclipse bs as it sounds an all rounder and with Teflon nib protector it should be good with all paint media


Robert

I have an Eclipse HP-CS. This is a great airbrush, but I also use my High Performace for finer work


John

[Guest]

Balderdash!
Noxious vapours? Use a mask / spray booth (recommended for whatever paint types you use!)


Multiple acrylic paint brands = an empty wallet (especially including buying their proprietary thinners & cleaners)


It takes no longer to flush enamels than acrylics to start on a new colour.


Drying time... you've got me there, but I prefer to allow paint to cure rather than dry.


Acrylics are more popular granted, but when do you see an enamel user saying " my tip is clogging! ", or " my paint is splattering "?


Enamels : the past, present & future of great painting! ™

Lol


John

[Guest]

Hoo-ray! My first real post.


I use Vallejo Model Air paints exclusively. I use them straight from the bottle. no enhancers, retarders, thinners... nothing. I use a CO2 tank with a regulator on it. I set my psi at 15. Flawless results every time.


I recently did a German WWII camo scheme, quite intricate in fact, and it turned out great.


I have found that the spattering one gets, is usually from the tip beginning to dry out with little bits of partially dried paint coming off the tip. I have also heard that condensation in the compressor or line can cause spattering , as well. That is why I switched to a CO2 tank.


Forgot to add that i use a Pasche, single action airbrush

[Alan 45]

With all these problems you can get with AB I'm glad I use a brush it that goes wrong I know what the problem is , it's me

[Guest]

Acrylics rule as I really don't want to find my Guinea pig getting high on fumes lol

[yak face]

[ATTACH]120470[/ATTACH] My iwata tr2 powered by the iwata smart jet pro which I can't recommend highly enough.. It sprays anything and everything at 20 psi for acrylic and about 12 psi for alclads.
It's never clogged spattered or splurged in the two years I've been using it .i hardly ever strip it down for cleaning just flush with cleaner after use.


And here we have my other tools which I've just had to fetch from the naughty cupboard and blow the dust of them to show them to you.I also have a neo (not in the picture) which as gone AWOL and will be executed on its return.


[ATTACH]120478[/ATTACH]So please don't do what I did and waste your money on these save up and pay the extra and get something decent. I promise you won't regret it.

John , if you dont want the gold ones anymore I'll gladly give you what you paid for them ! (if I recall , when I got mine it was a fiver each!) Ive found them a great little brush , never clogging ,easy to clean and so controllable , the only downside is the tiny cup capacity . And for my two penneth on the annoying enamels vs acrylics argument ,Ive used both and personally ive had the best results with Tamiya paints ,which are a curious mix of acrylic and smelly alcohol so sort of a combination of both !! For the record I spray at about 35-45 psi ,do all my priming from a spray can , guess mix ratios , dont use flow improver /retarder (unless im brushing ) so in other words I do everything wrong but it works for me - the point being that everyone has their own way of doing things and favourites , what we DONT want to do is tell other people theyre wrong just because they dont do things the same as you .and on that bombshell goodnight

[john i am]

John , if you dont want the gold ones anymore I'll gladly give you what you paid for them ! (if I recall , when I got mine it was a fiver each!) Ive found them a great little brush , never clogging ,easy to clean and so controllable , the only downside is the tiny cup capacity . And for my two penneth on the annoying enamels vs acrylics argument ,Ive used both and personally ive had the best results with Tamiya paints ,which are a curious mix of acrylic and smelly alcohol so sort of a combination of both !! For the record I spray at about 35-45 psi ,do all my priming from a spray can , guess mix ratios , dont use flow improver /retarder (unless im brushing ) so in other words I do everything wrong but it works for me - the point being that everyone has their own way of doing things and favourites , what we DONT want to do is tell other people theyre wrong just because they dont do things the same as you .and on that bombshell goodnight

Tony sorry to say they are broken but if you want them there yours I'll bring em to Telford if you are going cheers John