Looking for a new airbrush

[Guest]

Let's try to keep within peoples boundaries & expectations.

But we do not know their boundaries or expectations Patrick. The idea here is to give them


all that thirsty information which we each have, from our experiences, both in the use of an


airbrush and the purpose for which it is going to be used.


Airbrushers then can access the airbrush for themselves their application coupled with how much they


wish to spend. For me if I want something I need information all I can get. The number of times I have


been intent on buying an item to be swayed in finding with information gleaned another item better suited.


Another point is that there are many here who will read all of this and welcome all the information stored here.


Laurie

[Guest]

But we do not know their boundaries or expectations Patrick. The idea here is to give them
all that thirsty information which we each have, from our experiences, both in the use of an


airbrush and the purpose for which it is going to be used.


Airbrushers then can access the airbrush for themselves their application coupled with how much they


wish to spend. For me if I want something I need information all I can get. The number of times I have


been intent on buying an item to be swayed in finding with information gleaned another item better suited.


Another point is that there are many here who will read all of this and welcome all the information stored here.


Laurie

Ah but we do, because it's in the original post! The OP has told us what they have now & what they're interested in.


It seems to me that whenever the question of a new airbrush is raised, everyone starts extolling the virtues of very expensive items.


Nothing wrong with that, but it's entirely possible that the best replies to the OPs question become lost in a sea of replies about Eclipses & Hi-Lines.


There's a wealth of information relating to airbrushes on here for those who want to spend serious money - all I'm saying is let's keep things relevant to the original question.

[Guest]

Surely if the OP is asking about an Ultra, then cost is a factor?
I know there's lots of people on here with deep pockets, but spare a thought for those on more limited budgets!


If someone is contemplating an upgrade from a £30 airbrush, suggestions examples that retail at a much higher price is really not particularly helpful John.


Whilst in theory I'd agree that better tools are always likely to give a better performance, they won't make anyone better overnight.


Let's try to keep within peoples boundaries & expectations.

I completely agree-Just providing a wide range for others who are looking at different options if you know what I mean.


Personally, when I got my first AB, I didn't get the best I could afford-I bought an iwata Neo, which wasn't too great. When I purchased the hi-line however, (albeit, at a much more discounted price due to winnings at IPMS shows), I felt it had a lot more to offer than my eclipse or neo, which is why I sold my neo a while back now.


As for the costs, (please excuse me now John, although it doesn't really matter, because you stock H&S now) I bought all my iwatas from hobbylink japan. Excellent quick service, and they are a distributor of Iwata and other brands of airbrushes. This means that prices aren't as dear on, say airbrushes.co.uk which really is up there if you are looking at a hi line or an infinity.


John

[Guest]

Yes John here are the two eclipses. Both do practically the same job in delivery of paint.
The CS cup takes about half a cup of Vallejo Paint. The BS cup about one eighth.


Laurie


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my bad mate-completely misunderstood!

[Guest]

my bad mate-completely misunderstood!

Must be a member of the Aussie Cricket team John


Laurie


Apologies he he

[Guest]

Must be a member of the Aussie Cricket team John
Laurie


Apologies he he

yeah mate, that's fully me lol

[Guest]

I'd say if you have chance go to a local show and try a couple out.
I've used a Iwata Neo for near on 5 years now and not had any major issues with it, I don't understand the "speed" of cleaning point always mentioned with H&S users, I take about 5 mins for a good clean or a minute to flush through. Those of you that watch Flory will see how he cleans his or as in some cases doesn't I dare you to fault his work


Anyway, have a play if you can, I recently saw the Badger SOTAR 20/20 in use and have to say when I'm ready for a new A/B I'll have a go with it and see how I cope.


We all use a variety of airbrushes on here and I'm sure people will say better results are down to practice regardless of the equipment.


Adrian

I would like to know how you find the badger sotar when you get it. I have heard mixed things about badgers, and would like to hear about how it's higher end ones operate

[Guest]

To help with a new airbrush. Taken the Iwata and H & S as being most popular


quality airbrushes. Both having spares freely available . Both I have had


experience with and both great brushes. Both have advantages and advantages.


Note. Revolution is an Evolution but with pretty colours. Yes Steinback for Steenbeck.


2 in 1 Steenbeck is nothing special just two needles/nozzles supplied. Can be


purchased separately


Laurie


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[Guest]

To help with a new airbrush. Taken the Iwata and H & S as being most popular
quality airbrushes. Both having spares freely available . Both I have had


experience with and both great brushes. Both have advantages and advantages.


Note. Revolution is an Evolution but with pretty colours. Yes Steinback for Steenbeck.


2 in 1 Steenbeck is nothing special just two needles/nozzles supplied. Can be


purchased separately


Laurie


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A very helpful diagram. Do you find the H&S trigger more finicky than the Iwata? I certainly do on my infinity


John

[Adrian "Marvel" Reynolds]

No way does it take 4-5 mins to change the needle on any Iwata range and I would again say the 10 mins deep clean is exaggerated, nor do you need spanners to strip or build back up, in-fact its suggested to finger tighten the nozzle. The plain and simple Neo has interchangeable cups as well.


Perhaps a less biased review would be more helpful.


I'd still suggest the original poster go and try a few different airbrushes if at all possible.


Adrian

[Guest]

A very helpful diagram. Do you find the H&S trigger more finicky than the Iwata? I certainly do on my infinity
John

I find the H & S better than the Iwata. Find them uncomfortable in a long stretch. In a short film the demonstrator


had made a plastic shaped piece stuck on the trigger which seemed more comfortable at least from looks.


Laurie

[Steve Brodie]

Agree on the Iwata Eclipse range John very nice.
But we part a bit on the type John. I have an (any one want) HPCS used once.


Laurie

Setting up an airbrush museum in the shed, so would welcome this as the first inductee without hesitation.


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[Guest]

No way does it take 4-5 mins to change the needle on any Iwata range and I would again say the 10 mins deep clean is exaggerated, nor do you need spanners to strip or build back up, in-fact its suggested to finger tighten the nozzle. The plain and simple Neo has interchangeable cups as well.
Perhaps a less biased review would be more helpful. I'd still suggest the original poster go and try a few different airbrushes if at all possible. Adrian

Hi Adrian. Are you basing your thoughts here on a Neo (which is bought in by Iwata) or an Iwata Eclipse


from their own fold ie HPBS & HPBH which are different designs and engineering altogether ?


Biased Adrian which way ? Iwata or H & S. I use an Iwata for general work and another for effects etc..


An H & S for primer and varnish. If truth be told I favour Iwata as I use them mostly but that is my


personal preference.


Agree no better thing than trying out airbrushes. But the practical problem is where and with a number


of brushes ie both Iwata and H & S. Not just for a few minutes but for an hour or so.


I would willingly loan a couple of mine but UK customs will rate at 20% anything coming in form Jersey


to the UK.& it is non returnable when it comes back to Jersey.


Laurie

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Sorry for the late reply. Been snowed under in every corner I tried to hide in with a pot of glue and a spruce lol.


Well I think I'll have to read through all that a few times. Budget wise isn't really an issue. Maybe should look a little higher in both ranges. Tried to use my current one again today. It's now at the bottom of my garden somewhere after being thrown at the fence and we've had several major thunderstorms this evening so it's staying there. Thanks for all your help

[Guest]

Not looking to hi jack, but I have just given up the hobby and I am looking for a good owner of my prized, brand new Iwata HP-CH Hi Line-


For both the needle and the airbrush and superlube large tube, I am trying to offload it for $185 aussie dollars