Using an airbrush without being near ventilation?

[rtfoe]

Hey Max, just check on the labels if they're Lacquer or Aqueous...Mr. Color and Gunze have both I think.

Cheers,
Richard

[Guest]

Hey Max, just check on the labels if they're Lacquer or Aqueous...Mr. Color and Gunze have both I think.

Cheers,
Richard

Hi Richard
They’re solvent based which I think equates to lacquer? At least this is what all the ‘standard’ colours are, but I’m not sure about what the Mr Metal metallics are?
Max

[rtfoe]

Hi Richard
They’re solvent based which I think equates to lacquer? At least this is what all the ‘standard’ colours are, but I’m not sure about what the Mr Metal metallics are?
Max

No worries Max as Mr. Aqueous paints seem to work with solvents as well for me. The Mr Lacquer paints are my favourite for planes as they spray smooth and thin. They last for ages as the hardened paint can be regurgitated to life by adding a few drops of their thinners or solvents and letting it soften in the bottle. They have a very wide range and colour codes are mostly quoted on instruction manuals.

Cheers,
Richard

[Guest]

Hi Richard
I think you might have misunderstood my dilemma mate, which is the solvents and the problems they cause. It looks as though I’m going to have to buy an equivalent set of Vallejo colours. This whole airbrushing problem is proving to be a bit of a pain. The trouble with YouTube videos is they don’t show you the smell!! I’m going to have to give the whole painting business a rethink.

[rtfoe]

Oooh I see your problem now. Unfortunately for me airbrushing good results come with solvent based paints. Even Tamiya although called acrylic aren't exactly acrylics needing Isopropyl alcohol for best results.

Acrylics being water based do not dissolve entirely and after a while will settle to the bottom, that's why there is always a consistant clogging so an occasional blow back or stirring is needed to revive the smooth flow.

:tears-of-joy::tears-of-joy: you might find this wierd but I find Lacquer solvents like thinner from Mr. Hobby nicer smelling than Turpentine...just like I miss the old wiff of Airix tube glue in the air. I must be an addict. :tongue-out3:

I hope you find a solution to your painting needs, Max. Best possiblity a well ventilated room or an open veranda or porch.

Cheers,
Richard

[Tim Marlow]

To be honest Max, you should use a mask even when spraying acrylic paint. It’s not just the solvent that can cause issues, pigment particles are not great either. The paint booths are useful for controlling overspray but not much else. The filters are too coarse to trap fine particles and solvent needs active filtration rather than filter mesh.

[Tim Marlow]

Richard mate, a rule of thumb from industrial safety is that if you can smell it, you probably shouldnt, so get PPE....lacquer thinner is cellulose thinner based, and is pretty carcinogenic....nufff said....

[Guest]

Hi again Richard
It’s coming up to winter here in the UK and your suggestion of ‘veranda or porch’ made me chuckle ! But I do know what you mean about certain smells, many years ago I used to go for regular physiotherapy and there was always a background smell of ether. Now it may have been that I was a young lad, naked on a couch being massaged by female physiotherapists made the memory stronger, but I certainly remember it! On the very odd occasion that I smell ether these days (I don’t think they use it in hospitals anymore) it brings back floods of memories.

[rtfoe]

Richard mate, a rule of thumb from industrial safety is that if you can smell it, you probably shouldnt, so get PPE....lacquer thinner is cellulose thinner based, and is pretty carcinogenic....nufff said....

Yup I hear you Tim...thats why a respirator mask that makes me look like some guy in the post nuclear movie is at hand when spraying. Same thing applies to resin dust from sanding.

Cheers,
Richard

[rtfoe]

Hi again Richard
It’s coming up to winter here in the UK and your suggestion of ‘veranda or porch’ made me chuckle ! But I do know what you mean about certain smells, many years ago I used to go for regular physiotherapy and there was always a background smell of ether. Now it may have been that I was a young lad, naked on a couch being massaged by female physiotherapists made the memory stronger, but I certainly remember it! On the very odd occasion that I smell ether these days (I don’t think they use it in hospitals anymore) it brings back floods of memories.

:tears-of-joy::tears-of-joy:....ether a huh... Forgot about the weather up there. Here, we rather work in airconditioned rooms which is a problem for airbrushing as well so the veranda or porch is the all weather solution for most of us. I have a friend that has to occasionally pause in between strong breeze to airbrush fine detail. :smiling6:

Cheers,
Richard

[Guest]

Okay, I already have this mask:

https://www.its.co.uk/pd/AIRACE-Trend-Air-Ace-Safety-Respirator-_TREAIRACE.htm

Is it okay for airbrush please? It say on the box it protects down to 0.3 microns (P2).

[rtfoe]

ho ho Wow! Max...I think you can go to space with that. Actually I don't know. Any mask cannot guarantee 100% safety and I don't know the micron size of model paint or solvent particles. But for me it's Wow.

Cheers,
Richard

[Guest]

Well, answering my own question, it would appear that my mask which I bought originally for wood sawing, is not good enough for airbrushing. So yet another expense! Yes, I know these are one off expenses, but I didn’t realise just how MUCH outlay was needed. Note to self - do more research in future!

[Tim Marlow]

Hi Max
Personally I would say that P2 is fine for water based acrylic. If you want solvent protection go for Organic vapour A2/P3 rated filters....

[Guest]

Hi Max
Personally I would say that P2 is fine for water based acrylic. If you want solvent protection go for Organic vapour A2/P3 rated filters....

Thanks for that Tim. I’m still in the process of rethinking exactly what I’m going to do, but any input such as yours is helpful.