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  • Guest

    #16
    Originally posted by beowulf
    its an American airbrush........uses a totally different system......has interchangable nozzles for different sizes or applications......the needles are only an inch long......and in some sizes are plastic!

    lots of people hate them and like to deride them, i think they are great............ive own everything from cheapo chinky air brushes to badger and iwata.....all have terminally let me down in one way or another

    dont get me wrong, Azteks have their own problems but i like them
    Fair enough Paul. I see you’re from’t north, lovely place!

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    • PaulTRose
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      • Jun 2013
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      • Paul
      • Tattooine

      #17
      Originally posted by MarshMan
      Fair enough Paul. I see you’re from’t north, lovely place!
      not by birth lol
      Per Ardua

      We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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      • Guest

        #18
        Originally posted by beowulf
        not by birth lol
        Oh don’t be harsh!

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        • rtfoe
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          • Apr 2018
          • 9082

          #19
          Besides the Aztek, with ordinary dual action airbrushes, how do you insert the needle from the front unless you remove the sharp tip of the nozzle? :thinking: As much as possible I try not to mess with that tip and seldom remove it for cleaning so I always insert the needle from the back. The precision diameter of the shaft in which the needle passes through is a tight enough fit so there is no chance in the needle tip of catching anything in its path through the airbrush as long as you do not touch any of the working parts.

          Japanese airbrush needles tend to be sharp and thin at the tip. For anyone with rough handling should use Badger brushes as their needles are double bevelled which means it keeps its thickness as it tapers and then is bevelled sharp at the tip. No chance of bending unless you use it as a toothpick.

          Somebody explain how an Aztek airbrush works?

          Cheers,
          Richard

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          • Guest

            #20
            This is getting interesting!

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            • stillp
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              • Nov 2016
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              #21
              Originally posted by rtfoe
              Besides the Aztek, with ordinary dual action airbrushes, how do you insert the needle from the front unless you remove the sharp tip of the nozzle?
              With the H & S airbrushes the nozzle comes off when you remove the air cap.

              Pete

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              • Allen Dewire
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                • Apr 2018
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                • Allen
                • Bamberg

                #22
                this is a nozzle assembly....about twice real size lol

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                I'm with Paul on this one. I have a dual action aztek that I bought in 1997 and it works great. I don't know squat about the dual action end, but it lays down a nice coat of paint!!!
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                The cup can be inserted on either side and you can get different tips for it too...

                Forgot to mention that paint flow is controlled by the silver wheel on the back of it
                Attached Files
                Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                • Guest

                  #23
                  That’s interesting Allen for more than one reason. I’ve got a couple of old Thayer and Chandler beasties (that I’ve never used) and they are side fed. I don’t think I’d get parts for them now.

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                  • Allen Dewire
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    • Allen
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                    #24
                    Max, I thought I couldn't get anything for mine either, but last year I picked up a new tip (the tan one) and a large cup for it. It appears Aztek parts are still available and fit one another too. I'm afraid to try any high tech hissy stick thing myself...
                    Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                    • Guest

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Allen Dewire
                      Max, I thought I couldn't get anything for mine either, but last year I picked up a new tip (the tan one) and a large cup for it. It appears Aztek parts are still available and fit one another too. I'm afraid to try any high tech hissy stick thing myself...
                      I think my T&C’s are probably a lot older than your Aztek Allen, but I live in hope!

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                      • stillp
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                        • Nov 2016
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                        #26
                        Max, they still have a website: http://www.thayerandchandlerairbrush.com/

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                        • yak face
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                          • Jun 2009
                          • 13840
                          • Tony
                          • Sheffield

                          #27
                          This is going to upset the apple cart max but i always take the needle out from the back and put it back in the same way , the only time i take off the nozzle is if the brush isnt spraying properly , to clean it . And all the airbrushes i use regularly are chinese cheapos !! Cheers tony

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            Originally posted by stillp
                            Max, they still have a website: http://www.thayerandchandlerairbrush.com/
                            Thanks Peter
                            Yeah I hear they were taken over by Badger a while back, and I suspect spares for my old beasties (which are unlike any they’re selling today) are well out of stock.

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Originally posted by yak face
                              This is going to upset the apple cart max but i always take the needle out from the back and put it back in the same way , the only time i take off the nozzle is if the brush isnt spraying properly , to clean it . And all the airbrushes i use regularly are chinese cheapos !! Cheers tony
                              Well thanks for that Tony! If you haven’t guessed already it’s a Chinese cheapo I’ve bought!
                              Max

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                              • Tim Marlow
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                                • Apr 2018
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                                • Tim
                                • Somerset UK

                                #30
                                Hi all, I have an Iwatta and always remove and replace the needle from the back. I have bought a quick release modification for it that is designed to allow exactly that approach. Anything else would just seem weird :tongue-out3:

                                By the way, I also have an Aztec, which I used for a few years. I found it needed a lot of air to function correctly, and struggled for fine lines. I liked the settings wheel on the barrel though, allows good control of line width so making consistency a little easier. By the way, using Allen’s picture as a reference, the white bit is the nozzle, the metal bit is the needle, and the coloured bit is the body, so the technology is exactly the same.....

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