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  • stillp
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    • Nov 2016
    • 8093
    • Pete
    • Rugby

    #31
    Originally posted by MarshMan
    Thanks Peter
    Yeah I hear they were taken over by Badger a while back, and I suspect spares for my old beasties (which are unlike any they’re selling today) are well out of stock.
    Try emailing them - you never know!

    Pete

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    • Allen Dewire
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 4741
      • Allen
      • Bamberg

      #32
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      Hi all, I have an Iwatta and always remove and replace the needle from the back. I have bought a quick release modification for it that is designed to allow exactly that approach. Anything else would just seem weird :tongue-out3:

      By the way, I also have an Aztec, which I used for a few years. I found it needed a lot of air to function correctly, and struggled for fine lines. I liked the settings wheel on the barrel though, allows good control of line width so making consistency a little easier. By the way, using Allen’s picture as a reference, the white bit is the nozzle, the metal bit is the needle, and the coloured bit is the body, so the technology is exactly the same.....
      The First pic of the Aztek is from Paul (Beowulf). I tried to quote him and messed it up...
      Life's to short to be a sheep...

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      • PaulTRose
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        • Jun 2013
        • 6460
        • Paul
        • Tattooine

        #33
        Originally posted by Allen Dewire
        Max, I thought I couldn't get anything for mine either, but last year I picked up a new tip (the tan one) and a large cup for it. It appears Aztek parts are still available and fit one another too. I'm afraid to try any high tech hissy stick thing myself...

        Aztek is made/sold by Testors in the US of A......you can get bits easy enough on ebay or amazon........not sure who is the importer into the UK .....HobbyCraft used to carry nozzles but stopped last year
        Per Ardua

        We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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        • stillp
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          • Nov 2016
          • 8093
          • Pete
          • Rugby

          #34
          Axminster Tools & Machinery (my favourite shop:blow-kiss::blow-kiss-2 have Aztek nozzles: https://www.axminster.co.uk/aztek

          Pete

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          • Allen Dewire
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            • Apr 2018
            • 4741
            • Allen
            • Bamberg

            #35
            Paul, My Aztek was packaged by Testors and came in a nice plastic case. It also included the red cleaning tool and a good length of hose too. I found my tip and the cup here in Germany as a hobby dealer was clearing out his inventory and had marked them down as old stock. Great for me. Gotta try that new tip someday...
            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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            • JR
              • May 2015
              • 18273

              #36
              Can I join in ?
              I remove my H& S tip, unscrew the back lock and pull the needle out from the back. After cleaning with a fwd motion ( towards the tip.) I apply a smear of Iwatta grease to the shaft and then carefully replace from the back. Before the final push I refit the tip and then gently push the needle home and relock. I find the grease gives a smooth action .
              John.:nerd:

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              • rtfoe
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 9082

                #37
                I see... the Aztek is a single action airbrush with the paint control is situated at the back and not the front as conventional single action airbrushes.

                Originally posted by stillp
                With the H & S airbrushes the nozzle comes off when you remove the air cap.

                Pete
                Hi Peter, which model do you have as there are some H&S with screw tips and some with floating tips? I believe the ones with the floating tips just come off when you remove the nozzle assembly.
                John, you too which model are you having?

                Cheers,
                Richard

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #38
                  Originally posted by rtfoe
                  I see... the Aztek is a single action airbrush with the paint control is situated at the back and not the front as conventional single action airbrushes.



                  Hi Peter, which model do you have as there are some H&S with screw tips and some with floating tips? I believe the ones with the floating tips just come off when you remove the nozzle assembly.
                  John, you too which model are you having?

                  Cheers,
                  Richard
                  Hi Richard.
                  Ultra, the nozzle unscrews, then I remove the inner tip. Also have the Infinity model ( beautiful control ) which has the same tip system.
                  John.

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                  • stillp
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 8093
                    • Pete
                    • Rugby

                    #39
                    Originally posted by rtfoe
                    I see... the Aztek is a single action airbrush with the paint control is situated at the back and not the front as conventional single action airbrushes.



                    Hi Peter, which model do you have as there are some H&S with screw tips and some with floating tips? I believe the ones with the floating tips just come off when you remove the nozzle assembly.
                    John, you too which model are you having?

                    Cheers,
                    Richard
                    Infinity. The bit that unscrews is the air cap, the nozzle is not fixed but is retained by the air cap.

                    Pete

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                    • Mr Bowcat
                      SMF OG
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 4600
                      • Bob
                      • London

                      #40
                      Originally posted by John Race
                      Hi Richard.
                      Ultra, the nozzle unscrews, then I remove the inner tip. Also have the Infinity model ( beautiful control ) which has the same tip system.
                      John.
                      The Evolution is the same.
                      Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                      • rtfoe
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 9082

                        #41
                        Thanks for the reply guys, I noticed those three models have the float system of attachment.

                        The Chinese copies of the Japanese airbrushes don't have the float type nozzle tip and are fasten in by screwing it with the help of stamped steel spanner with cuts for the main assembly and nozzle tip. I had my nozzle tip break with the thread still inside. I dipped it in WD40 and using a wooden tooth pick wedged it in the twisted it out...thank goodness for that. Bought a spare and replaced it.

                        Cheers,
                        Richard

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                        • Tim Marlow
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18901
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #42
                          Richard, the Astek is double or single action, with conventional controls as well. Trigger down for air and pull back for paint in double action mode. The roller mechanism controls trigger opening so can restrict paint for single action use if used all the way over....

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                          • rtfoe
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 9082

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                            Richard, the Astek is double or single action, with conventional controls as well. Trigger down for air and pull back for paint in double action mode. The roller mechanism controls trigger opening so can restrict paint for single action use if used all the way over....
                            Hi Tim,

                            Thanks for the clarification...so it's double triple action.:smiling6: I see now...the roller acts just like the little knob screw in front of the trigger for the Badger 150.

                            Cheers,
                            Richard

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                            • Tim Marlow
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 18901
                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #44
                              Yep, or the attachment I have added to My Iwatta

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                              • Guest

                                #45
                                The way I do it is to remove the needle from the front to save dragging paint back through the Teflon bush, and put it back through the front to save damaging the needle tip. One of my airbrushes is the Badger 155 anthem, a great brush but it had a ball on the back end of the needle to make it easier to pull out which used to drag paint through the bush which dried and stuck round the needle, it`s now no longer there, I cut it off lol.

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