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    AK Air Series

    Hello,

    Looking for a few tips on how to make the AK Air Series acrylic paints more reliable in the air brush. I'm using a Harder & Steenbeck and have tried various pressure settings and thinners(except the AK-712 because it's out of stock) such as X-20A. So I was wondering if others have tried these and the results they are getting? They are "suppose" to be ready-mixed of course.... lol

    Thanks
  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #2
    Firstly welcome to the forum Hx. Sorry i can't help you but i'm going to watch this thread as i like the look of the AK paints too

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    • JR
      • May 2015
      • 18273

      #3
      Wecolme Hx,
      Copy what Al says .
      John .

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      • Si Benson
        • Apr 2018
        • 3572

        #4
        Originally posted by hxman
        Hello,

        Looking for a few tips on how to make the AK Air Series acrylic paints more reliable in the air brush. I'm using a Harder & Steenbeck and have tried various pressure settings and thinners(except the AK-712 because it's out of stock) such as X-20A. So I was wondering if others have tried these and the results they are getting? They are "suppose" to be ready-mixed of course.... lol

        Thanks
        Hi hx,
        That’s not a brand I’ve used but if it’s acrylic I’d personally try diluting with a little Water?
        What’s problems are you having with it?

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        • PaulTRose
          SMF Supporters
          • Jun 2013
          • 6454
          • Paul
          • Tattooine

          #5
          i certainly wouldnt be using x20-a as a thinner with AK paints.......pretty sure AK is waterbased......tamiya paint isnt.......get some AK thinners then you definatly cant go wrong cos its the right brand for what you are using......id try a ordinary tap water too......works with Vallejo
          Per Ardua

          We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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          • Dave Ward
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 10549

            #6
            I use AK acrylics on quite a regular basis - I generally just add a few drops of water, if I think the mixtures a bit thick. I'm using an Iwata Neo, at 1.7bar. I use regular tap water ( the water here is very soft! ), and I can't say I have had any more problems, than using Vallejo, or Mig..
            I used AK on my ICM Hs 126 - all sprayed & masked no problems with the paintClick image for larger version

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            • Guest

              #7
              I bought a few to test with and I'm finding them drying on the tip way too fast.... I will try some airbrush medium and report back.

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              • JR
                • May 2015
                • 18273

                #8
                Hx .
                Good video here .

                Might be of some help. Note the use of the Flow improver as well .
                John.

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Ok, so after some testing it seems to be much improved with the following settings:

                  25 psi
                  12 drops paint
                  2 drops water
                  2 drops Vallejo flow improver 71.462

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                  • Dave Ward
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 10549

                    #10
                    Hx,
                    looking back at my blog of the Hs 126, it was done in the hottest part of last year, and I did use some flow improver - the only comment I made was that I thought that the flow improver reduced the paint adhesion ( important when you're using masks ). High temperatures are not good for airbrushing!
                    Dave

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                    • BarryW
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 6010

                      #11
                      I used to use AKI Air Series paints extensively with a H&S airbrush and I would suggest this:
                      1/ Use a 0.4 needle as the 0.2 tends to block.
                      2/ No need to thin at all but if you do thin, for filter coats for instance, do so with AKI or Vallejo Airbrush Thinner, not water.
                      3/ Always apply very thin coats and build up colour. Do not rush.
                      4/ Wait 24 hours at least for the paint to cure before masking over it.
                      5/ Use a good primer - The best compatable primer is Badgers Stynylrez.
                      6/ Always clean the model before priming. I use i.p.a.

                      The Air Series are excellent and will do a good job if you adapt to them. They are similar to Vallejo Model Air but, in my view, marginally better.

                      If you have a seperate spray area, with a spray booth venting outside, then perhaps you should try MRP as these are the best airbrush paints that you can get, but AKI/Vallejo are the best 'non-smelly' alternatives good for inside use. Do still use a mask with them though, due to particulates.

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Thanks for the helpful information....

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                        • AlanG
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 6296

                          #13
                          Phil Flory has done a good review of them on Youtube (and the Vallejo Metal range too)

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            H&S make a V2 needle which has a better tip angle. I have changed mine and spraying with 0.2 needle is much better.

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