Harder and Steenbeck Evolution Airbrush.

[Martin64]

Hi Martin.
Two things , thin and add some retarderer. I had the same problem so added several drops of thinners in one of those plastic shot cups cup to 10 drops of paint.Then added the same amount of retarder as thinners.
You may have to play with the amounts to get a good spray. It's very annoying esp when you read it can be used straight from the bottle.

Just had a look at the Apex air brush, certainly like the idea of a progressive needle system and the large opening in the body for cleaning. Looks good .

Sorry,not been on the forum for a while. The Apex is an excellent airbrush, I actually prefer it to the h and s brush. I have two Apex airbrushes.
Martin

[Martin64]

Further to my first post regarding the harder and Steenbeck airbrush. I have since been thinning the paint,and had no problems. Also upped the psi which improved things a lot. Not really new to airbrushing either,first started using one over 40 years ago,but big improvements since then! Lol Thanks for the replies.
Martin

[JR]

Further to my first post regarding the harder and Steenbeck airbrush. I have since been thinning the paint,and had no problems. Also upped the psi which improved things a lot. Not really new to airbrushing either,first started using one over 40 years ago,but big improvements since then! Lol Thanks for the replies.
Martin

Good to read that Martin. Really interested in the Apex ab still, just like the idea of that needle system .

[adt70hk]

Further to my first post regarding the harder and Steenbeck airbrush. I have since been thinning the paint,and had no problems. Also upped the psi which improved things a lot. Not really new to airbrushing either,first started using one over 40 years ago,but big improvements since then! Lol Thanks for the replies.
Martin

Hi Martin

As John has said really pleased to hear you have got things sorted.

ATB

Andrew

[Bugatti Fan]

The Apex airbrush Is this a brand or model name? Not familiar to me. Heard of most like Iwata, Badger, DeVilbiss Aerograph, Paasche, Grex, Aztec etc. (Not counting the number of cheapo ones also available).

[stillp]

https://www.umpretail.com/products/ultimate-apex-airbrush

[Bugatti Fan]

Thanks for the feed back Peter.

[Martin64]

The Apex airbrush Is this a brand or model name? Not familiar to me. Heard of most like Iwata, Badger, DeVilbiss Aerograph, Paasche, Grex, Aztec etc. (Not counting the number of cheapo ones also available).

The Apex is sold by Ultimate Modelling Products, I have two. I think its made by Badger for UMP. I also have an H and S Evolution
Martin

[Bugatti Fan]

The Apex is sold by Ultimate Modelling Products, I have two. I think its made by Badger for UMP. I also have an H and S Evolution
Martin

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Thanks for the further into Martin. I have 2 Badgers and have used them for years. What is interesting about your reply is that I was unaware that Badger may have badge engineered their product to be sold under another name. Cannot really understand why they would feel the need to do that. I believe that the old Thayer and Chandler brand has been bought by Badger but have not seen the T&C brand sold as we a separate brand name recently.

[Guest]

What is interesting about your reply is that I was unaware that Badger may have badge engineered their product to be sold under another name.

I didn't know that either, but they repackage their primer for the same retailer, so I don't think it's much of a stretch to think they do it with airbrushes too.

[KarlW]

H&S have also repackaged one of their airbrushes and aimed it at the nail art crowd.

[Guest]

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Thanks for the further into Martin. I have 2 Badgers

Mmm keep them in the garden :tongue-out3:

Laurie

[Bugatti Fan]

Mmm keep them in the garden :tongue-out3:

Laurie

HA! HA! Very humorous!

[john i am]

Was thinking about getting the H/S so I'm happy to hear your issues have been solved.
Very reassuring. Might have to consider the Apex beforehand now after reading this post.
Cheers John.

[Bugatti Fan]

Regarding Air Brushes generally, you only get what you pay for. H&S is a good quality German made air brush. Besides H&S I would seriously look at Iwata, Badger and Paasche wno are all long lived quality air brush manufacturers, all with a good reputation. DeVilbiss in the UK used to manufacture a high quality range of air brushes with the trade name Aerograph. Back in the 70's they made a cut down version named the Sprite aimed at the model maker. Basically some of the Aerograph metal parts were substituted by plastic to get the cost down. The original Aerographs were aimed at the graphic designer and artist market, and very expensive. DeVilbiss are still in existence but now concentrate on commercial spray equipment. I think they produce just one airbrush now for automotive work.
There are many cheap airbrushes out there that may be alright if used just occassionally, but for constant use, stick with tried and trusted manufacturers.