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  • Bugatti Fan
    • Mar 2018
    • 314

    #31
    Laurie, was the Badger with the cup on the side that you could not get on with one of the earlier 100XF air brushes?
    Had mine since the mid 70's. It needs an overhaul now as the place where the cup slots into the body is worn and I guess that the tube from the cup is also, so it will be a new body and colour cup at some time soon. I have another Badger that is also a double action with a larger colour cup that slides into the body on the centre line just behind the nozzle area and can stick out of either side by choice. It was probably designed that way to enable RH and LH users. The other one I have is a single action with a very small reservoir let into the top of the body. As it takes a very small amount of liquid I would imagine that it was originally developed for photographic print retouching. They are both OK to use and clean up alright but am aware that things have moved on in the airbrush world.
    I have tried out a few of the H&S airbrushes on Paul Fitzmaurice's Little Tools stand at shows and they impressed me as being a very high quality instrument and easy to use. Typical German engineering! So I would be very tempted to buy one with a top feed cup at some time in the future if I start looking again.
    A lot of modellers wax lyrical about Iwata airbrushes so I guess that they must be very good although I have no experience of using one myself. Our local art shop was stocking them (at too a high price for me I can remember) years before the model making fraternity cottoned on to the make. Paasche, the most long lived manufacturer gets mentioned again and again by American modellers on forums. Again it is an excellent product that has hardly ever been pushed in the UK. The De Vilbiss Aerograph range was the top line UK made air brush back in the 70's aimed at the graphics market more than any other. I think that they only make one airbrush now along with their car and industrial spraying equipment. This is probably because a lot of graphics is now done on computer and they were never really serious about the model maker market anyway, so they dropped most of their airbrush models. They did made a bit of an excursion into the model making field with their Sprite Top Feed Airbrush that was basically a double action Aerograph with a number of plastic parts instead of plated metal. I don't know how long they made it for. I have one kicking around somewhere but hardly ever used it.
    Had a look at the Aztec when it first came out, but it seemed too unconventional to me and a bit plasticky.
    Don't know about the Cheap and Cheerful Chinese origin airbrushes, but expect they may be OK for very infrequent use. I would probably not consider one though as a regular workhorse.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Bugatti Fan
      Laurie, was the Badger with the cup on the side that you could not get on with one of the earlier 100XF air brushes?
      Had mine since the mid 70's. It needs an overhaul now as the place where the cup slots into the body is worn and I guess that the tube from the cup is also, so it will be a new body and colour
      Hi Noel some 20 years ago now. Bit hazy. Think it was cup on the side. Near gave up model making until I cottoned on to the H & S.

      Having had, I think I mentioned this above, both H & S & Iwata. Iwata is better engineered. Although I suspect I would not know the difference in my paint finish on either brush.

      As also mentioned I got one Iwata brush from Japan at a very good price. worth scouting around.

      Laurie

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      • Bugatti Fan
        • Mar 2018
        • 314

        #33
        Hi Laurie, as you have both H&S and Iwata airbrushes you are much better suited to comment on both makes than me. I had a bit of a chuckle when I mentioned in another post that I still had two Badgers. I think it might have been you that replied back back jokingly 'best keep them in the garden!'.
        If that old Badger of yours had the cup going into the side of the body it may well have been a 100XF like mine. The little cup on mine has a screw off bottom to enable cleaning. Once the tube to body fit started to get worn and sloppy I resorted to using small elastic bands to hold it in place and to stop it from falling out. I really will have to contact Badger and see if they still carry the spares for that model, having had it since 1973. The performance was actually very good until the cup to body wear started. I did a lot of work with it over the years with just the odd needle and nozzle change. I guess that I am a bit sentimentally attached to it although it has been stuck in a drawer for ages now!

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          #34
          Originally posted by Bugatti Fan
          Hi Laurie, as you have both H&S and Iwata airbrushes you are much better suited to comment on both makes than me. I had a bit of a chuckle when I mentioned in another post that I still had two Badgers. I think it might have been you that replied back back jokingly 'best keep them in the garden!'.
          If that old Badger of yours had the cup going into the side of the body it may well have been a 100XF like mine. The little cup on mine has a screw off bottom to enable cleaning. Once the tube to body fit started to get worn and sloppy I resorted to using small elastic bands to hold it in place and to stop it from falling out. I really will have to contact Badger and see if they still carry the spares for that model, having had it since 1973. The performance was actually very good until the cup to body wear started. I did a lot of work with it over the years with just the odd needle and nozzle change. I guess that I am a bit sentimentally attached to it although it has been stuck in a drawer for ages now!
          No not me Noel about keeping them in the garden but very funny. like it

          Did not keep the Badger long enough. Think I have mentioned near gave up model making as the Badger was sending me nuts.

          Got the H & S & life in scale modelling abut 20 years ago took off. My favourite though is Iwata. Low profile on the cup just feels right.

          No idea what happened to my Badger. In the bin or perhaps chucked it out into the garden :tongue-out3:

          Laurie

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