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  • Ian M
    Administrator
    • Dec 2008
    • 18269
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #1

    To buy or not to buy? That is the question!

    I am considering getting a new airbrush.
    The local pushers here are Iwata or H&S.
    I want one that can fine line and cover large areas, either with the same or changeable needles and or nozzles.
    I'm not after the most expensive either, just something that will last, is easy to stripdown and clean.

    What say the mob?
    Mini reviews are more than welcome.
    Group builds

    Bismarck
  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #2
    I have an Iwata Revolution CR but i personally think it's a total pain to clean. Sprays very nicely and is great for fine detailing like Luftwaffe mottling. For a much more cover of large areas i have a cheap Chinese 0.5mm airbrush.

    I've read that the H&S airbrushes are far easier to clean.

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    • scottie3158
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 14201
      • Paul
      • Holbeach

      #3
      I have an Iawata eclipse and a H&S both have 0.3 needle and I find they are both good enough for my needs with good coverage and with the needle shroud removed capable of fine lines.

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      • Jim R
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 15698
        • Jim
        • Shropshire

        #4
        I have an Iwata Revolution BR and a top of the range H&S Infinity CR+ 2 in 1. The Iwata was much cheaper but in my opinion is the better of the two. The H&S is easier to take apart but the Iwata is no problem either. The Iwata seems better made. The Iwata has a 0.3 nozzle and the H&S has a 0.2 and a 0.4. I have had the Iwata for close to 15 years and it has never let me down and it has had everything through it - acrylics, enamels and lacquers. Original needle, nozzle and seals. The H&S is about 5 years old and is also as bought although it has had far less use.
        Just my experiences.
        Jim

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        • Gern
          SMF Supporters
          • May 2009
          • 9215

          #5
          I find my H&S Ultra is a doddle to clean and swap needles no tools needed. Phil Flory does a nice review here showing how easy it is:



          He tests the spray and gets both thin lines and area coverage.

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          • stillp
            SMF Supporters
            • Nov 2016
            • 8093
            • Pete
            • Rugby

            #6
            H & S Infinity here too. Very easy to strip - easier than the Chinese cheapos as you don't need a tool for the nozzle.
            Pete

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            • Tim Marlow
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 18906
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #7
              I have an Iwatta eclipse side feed. It is a great brush and can be stripped and cleaned in minutes. 0.35 nozz goes as fine as you like, but can cover wider areas when required. I hot rodded mine as described here..

              It is robust and has no tiny o rings to lose. Hot rodded as it is I can draw the needle straight out the back by simply turning the locking nut.

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              • adt70hk
                SMF Supporters
                • Sep 2019
                • 10409

                #8
                Not an expert as am still learning but I have a Sparmax Max 0.4 if you can get them, well under ยฃ100 here plus parts are very cheap compared to Iwata.....I recently spent ยฃ25 on a 0.3 needle and nozzle for flexibility. I can get surprisingly fine lines even with a 0.4. they also go down to 0.2.

                However, I know Tim Marlow swears by his Iwata Eclipse SBS, it's a 0.3mm side load and I think can you buy additional/larger cups for quick paint changes, plus it doesn't have one of those delicate nozzles to break easily. See below.

                ATB.

                Andrew

                Thread 'Hot rod Iwatta airbrush' https://www.scale-models.co.uk/threads/hot-rod-iwatta-airbrush.37841/

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                • adt70hk
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 10409

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  I have an Iwatta eclipse side feed. It is a great brush and can be stripped and cleaned in minutes. 0.35 nozz goes as fine as you like, but can cover wider areas when required. I hot rodded mine as described here..

                  It is robust and has no tiny o rings to lose. Hot rodded as it is I can draw the needle straight out the back by simply turning the locking nut.
                  You just beat me to it!!!

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                  • Tim Marlow
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18906
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #10
                    Snapโ€ฆLOLโ€ฆ.

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                    • Jack L
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jul 2018
                      • 1271
                      • Cheltenham

                      #11
                      I have a H&S (Evolution I think?) and have zero complaints. Easy to use, easy to strip and clean, easy to change between 0.4 and 0.2.

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                      • JR
                        • May 2015
                        • 18273

                        #12
                        I've had both Ian an Iawata Neo and H&S ultra and the Infinity .

                        H&S easy to clean and with the Infinity came the choice of needle and nozzle .The new needles and nozzles are marked so as to save mixing . Something that caused me no end of trouble before they were clearly identifiable.

                        Iawata Neo cheaper but the nozzle is so small and needs a spanner to change.

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                        • AlanG
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 6296

                          #13
                          Originally posted by John Race

                          Iawata Neo cheaper but the nozzle is so small and needs a spanner to change.
                          My nozzle on my Iwata Revolution CR needs a spanner to remove/replace/change it too. I think that is the way that Iwata went with all their airbrushes.

                          If i'm honest, i'm thinking of saving up for a H&S Infinity. It would cover all the bases for my spraying with one brush.

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                          • adt70hk
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 10409

                            #14
                            Originally posted by John Race
                            I've had both Ian an Iawata Neo and H&S ultra and the Infinity .

                            H&S easy to clean and with the Infinity came the choice of needle and nozzle .The new needles and nozzles are marked so as to save mixing . Something that caused me no end of trouble before they were clearly identifiable.

                            Iawata Neo cheaper but the nozzle is so small and needs a spanner to change.
                            Originally posted by AlanG
                            My nozzle on my Iwata Revolution CR needs a spanner to remove/replace/change it too. I think that is the way that Iwata went with all their airbrushes.

                            If i'm honest, i'm thinking of saving up for a H&S Infinity. It would cover all the bases for my spraying with one brush.
                            I have a Tamiya SuperFine but the main components are all Iwata and have the same small nozzle.... Overcooked it in the early days and so had to by a replacement.

                            Tim's Eclipse from what I have seen seems to be the only Iwata that doesn't use that system. My Sparmax uses the same system as Iwata.

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                            • Tim Marlow
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 18906
                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #15
                              Mine does come with a spanner to undo the nozzle nut Alan, but I find it works perfectly OK if just hand tightened. It has a sealing O ring which helps. The nozzle itself is tapered and self centering. The big advantage of mine over others I looked at is the easy access you have to the paint path. It really is exceptionally easy to clean.

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