fengda airbrush question?

[Mark1]

As with most things involved with this hobby the more you research and look into things generally the more confused you will become by the overwhelming amount of different information everywhere, whatever you buy youll be telling yourself maybe that one or that one would've been better! I would say find something you like the look of at a price that suits your budget and just hit the buy in now button. Whatever you get will surley meet your needs for a couple of years until when and if you decide you want to spend a bit more money and maybe upgrade. Ive started looking for a new compressor and need to try and take note of my own advice lol

[BarryW]

Just eying the AS186.
While looking at you-tube I noticed the tank (on the bottom) was rather large compared to the one I looked at with the tank on top
I'm confused now lol.

Seriously the As186 is a generic Chinese compressor that is ‘white labelled’. Under various brand names.

For a first compressor you cannot go wrong. The one in this last picture you posted is the real thing. I had one and it did sterling service for around 6 years before I got another. Just don’t bother too much with any airbrush bundled with it (if any). Throw that away or just use it for primer.

[Modler bob]

Very true Mark.
I am hopeless at making a decision when it comes to buying things.
My head aches when I spend all day researching :smiling:

[Modler bob]

Seriously the As186 is a generic Chinese compressor that is ‘white labelled’. Under various brand names.

For a first compressor you cannot go wrong. The one in this last picture you posted is the real thing. I had one and it did sterling service for around 6 years before I got another. Just don’t bother too much with any airbrush bundled with it (if any). Throw that away or just use it for primer.Was

thanks, Barry.
Was your tank below the compressor or on top?
In the ones I've seen for sale there is a small tank on the top, does that make a difference?:thinking:
Sorry for all these questions, I feel Im being a pain lol

[Modler bob]

Erm, you guys must think I'm a complete idiot.
just looked through the kits again and the tank IS on the bottom of them.
I'll have to keep off the booze

[Andy the Sheep]

As a side suggestion, whatever your choice about brush and compressor, get a good mask with filters or you'll get camouflaged nostril hairs and, more dangerous, unhealthy things down your lungs.

This suggestion doesn't apply if you have whale-type lungs allowing you to paint without breathing for several minutes. :rolling: :rolling:
Sorry for the cheap humor about whales, just thought you needed something to ease your mind.

[stillp]

Give John in the Scale Model Shop a ring. This is the compressor I have https://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/sca...s-186s-p17369/
Pete

[Mark1]

Give John in the Scale Model Shop a ring. This is the compressor I have https://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/sca...s-186s-p17369/
Pete

Was having a look at that myself, would you say it was quiet? Also been looking at the sparmax 610h as the pressure drops from 60psi to 40 before it kicks in again so figure it wouldn't have to run so often as the 186,if anyone can comment on the sparmax,noise level particularly i would like to hear what you think , living in a flat noise level is the real issue for me,cheers

[BarryW]

Was having a look at that myself, would you say it was quiet? Also been looking at the sparmax 610h as the pressure drops from 60psi to 40 before it kicks in again so figure it wouldn't have to run so often as the 186,if anyone can comment on the sparmax,noise level particularly i would like to hear what you think , living in a flat noise level is the real issue for me,cheers

First and foremost you should not run the compressor at 60/40psi for models. You would need to wind down the air pressure considerably.

Typically for water based acrylics you should run it at 20-25 psi or for lacquers lower, I run mine at 10-15 psi spraying MRP lacquers.

[Mark1]

Of course, the pressure regulator controls what pressure comes out the tank not what goes in it but sooner or later the pressure in the tank will drop enough to start the compressor,the 186s runs up the tank to 57 psi and kicks back in when the pressure drops to 50 psi ,the sparmax runs up to 60 and kicks back in at 40,on that basis i would guess the sparmax would restart less frequently than the 186s.

[BarryW]

Of course, the pressure regulator controls what pressure comes out the tank not what goes in it but sooner or later the pressure in the tank will drop enough to start the compressor,the 186s runs up the tank to 57 psi and kicks back in when the pressure drops to 50 psi ,the sparmax runs up to 60 and kicks back in at 40,on that basis i would guess the sparmax would restart less frequently than the 186s.

You will have problems spraying model paints at those air pressures. It is far too high so the pressure regulator needs adjusting down to a working pressure.

I set mine at 15psi, suitable for MRP lacquers, I would recommend a max of 25psi for most other non-lacquer paints.

Depending on your set up you may need a higher pressure but not much higher.

Spraying at too high pressure will cause spidering, possibly tip-dry with some types of paint and you will also be using up a lot of paint very quickly. The paint may also be dry when it hits the plastic giving a pebble like feel.

[stillp]

Was having a look at that myself, would you say it was quiet? Also been looking at the sparmax 610h as the pressure drops from 60psi to 40 before it kicks in again so figure it wouldn't have to run so often as the 186,if anyone can comment on the sparmax,noise level particularly i would like to hear what you think , living in a flat noise level is the real issue for me,cheers

Reasonably quiet - you can't hear it in the next room. A bit louder than a fridge compressor though.
Don't get hung up on those pressure figures, firstly because they're the working pressure of the compressor not the pressure delivered to the airbrush, and secondly because they're only a design figure and the actual pressures might be plus or minus 20% of that at best.
Pete

[Mark1]

Ok well my original post asked for any thoughts on a particular compressor from anyone whoes used or owned one ß

Reasonably quiet - you can't hear it in the next room. A bit louder than a fridge compressor though.
Don't get hung up on those pressure figures, firstly because they're the working pressure of the compressor not the pressure delivered to the airbrush, and secondly because they're only a design figure and the actual pressures might be plus or minus 20% of that at best.
Pete

Thanks Pete.

[Mark1]

You will have problems spraying model paints at those air pressures. It is far too high so the pressure regulator needs adjusting down to a working pressure.

I set mine at 15psi, suitable for MRP lacquers, I would recommend a max of 25psi for most other non-lacquer paints.

Depending on your set up you may need a higher pressure but not much higher.

Spraying at too high pressure will cause spidering, possibly tip-dry with some types of paint and you will also be using up a lot of paint very quickly. The paint may also be dry when it hits the plastic giving a pebble like feel.

Ok,just to clarify,i was asking opinions about a particular model if anyone had used or owned it, at no point have i asked for advice on how to paint ,i know how a compressor works and how a pressure regulator works! I have never had an issue with blowing my builds out the kitchen window because i was dumb enough to try painting at 60psi!
For the last 35 years ive painted everything from formula1 motorbike and sidecar outfits to hgv's and everything inbetween! Ive painted everything from flip colours, to metalflake to pearls down to stove enamel, spent 10 years restoring specifically mercedes pagoda sl's so if by any chance i do find i need some painting advice then my post will ask for painting advice.

[BarryW]

Ok,just to clarify,i was asking opinions about a particular model if anyone had used or owned it, at no point have i asked for advice on how to paint ,i know how a compressor works and how a pressure regulator works! I have never had an issue with blowing my builds out the kitchen window because i was dumb enough to try painting at 60psi!
For the last 35 years ive painted everything from formula1 motorbike and sidecar outfits to hgv's and everything inbetween! Ive painted everything from flip colours, to metalflake to pearls down to stove enamel, spent 10 years restoring specifically mercedes pagoda sl's so if by any chance i do find i need some painting advice then my post will ask for painting advice.

Touchy. Were you not referencing 60psi in a previous post ? How the hell does anyone know you are not contemplating using those pressures. A little less excess sensitivity and a little gratitude towards people willing to help is advised.