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  • Waspie
    • Mar 2023
    • 3488
    • Doug
    • Fraggle Rock

    #16
    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
    Totally agree. Pretty much as many ways to airbrush as there are modellers, and they mostly all get good results so to me it’s a pretty bulletproof system. Best way to learn is to play with paint, brush and compressor until it works for you I think.
    Thats how I started getting results from mine. All the YT vids all the threads on here actually started overloading me. Then when I started using it and 'fiddling', thin mix, then thick, high and low pressures!!!!! A few sheets of blank paper to test on before actually spraying and presto - it all started happening. My only problem now is correcting my cock ups!!!

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    • Jim R
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 15631
      • Jim
      • Shropshire

      #17
      I tend to adjust the pressure like Andy does. So many variables, paint, distance from model, area to be covered, even the room temperature is a factor. I have no idea of the actual pressure but tend to work at the lowest pressure which gives the required "spray".

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      • Waspie
        • Mar 2023
        • 3488
        • Doug
        • Fraggle Rock

        #18
        Originally posted by Jim R
        I tend to adjust the pressure like Andy does. So many variables, paint, distance from model, area to be covered, even the room temperature is a factor. I have no idea of the actual pressure but tend to work at the lowest pressure which gives the required "spray".
        It's not as if compressors have the gauge in a place that is visible most of the time!!

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        • Tim Marlow
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 18873
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #19
          Originally posted by Waspie
          It's not as if compressors have the gauge in a place that is visible most of the time!!
          I’ve fitted a second gauge and PRV to the airbrush stand so I have one that is easy to adjust. I then just turned the PRV on the compressor up to about 50 and adjust the one on the stand to give air pressure as required. It’s not the same as a MAC valve, by the way. That reduces air flow, not pressure…..

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          • Waspie
            • Mar 2023
            • 3488
            • Doug
            • Fraggle Rock

            #20
            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
            I’ve fitted a second gauge and PRV to the airbrush stand so I have one that is easy to adjust. I then just turned the PRV on the compressor up to about 50 and adjust the one on the stand to give air pressure as required. It’s not the same as a MAC valve, by the way. That reduces air flow, not pressure…..
            I understood as far as PRV then all after was over the top of my bald little head. :smiling2: :smiling2: :smiling2: Sorry!!!!!:smiling5:

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            • Tim Marlow
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 18873
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #21
              PRV, pressure reducing valve……

              MAC valve, a little screw device that fits under the airbrush on the air inlet line and crimps the air flow.

              Basically what I’ve done (and obviously badly explained) is extend the air line connecting the compressor and the PRV so I can adjust the PRV at the bench rather than have to reach to the compressor to do it.

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              • Waspie
                • Mar 2023
                • 3488
                • Doug
                • Fraggle Rock

                #22
                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                PRV, pressure reducing valve……

                MAC valve, a little screw device that fits under the airbrush on the air inlet line and crimps the air flow.

                Basically what I’ve done (and obviously badly explained) is extend the air line connecting the compressor and the PRV so I can adjust the PRV at the bench rather than have to reach to the compressor to do it.
                Not you your explanation, my lack of knowledge about the system. I have seen a few airbrushes with a small knurled knob in front of the airline, would that be what you are referring?

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                • rtfoe
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 9065

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Andy T
                  If anything I'll set my pressure with the trigger pulled (dynamic pressure) rather than not (static pressure) but to be honest I can't really see what my gauge says, nor would I trust it anyway, so personally I don't worry about the actual reading.

                  Thicker paint and greater distance generally means more pressure, so if I'm moving in close or thinning my paint more I'll just keep winding down the pressure until it doesn't atomise correctly (paint comes out spitty rather than a fine mist and it sounds "crackly" coming out of the nozzle) then notch it back up a tad.

                  Not very scientific I know, but then neither is airbrushing :smiling4:
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  Totally agree. Pretty much as many ways to airbrush as there are modellers, and they mostly all get good results so to me it’s a pretty bulletproof system. Best way to learn is to play with paint, brush and compressor until it works for you I think.
                  That's the way I've been using my airbrush too seldom adjusting the psi and only when the paint mixture and coverage requires it and keep it a constant 15 to 20 psi as I work very closely in small areas at a time with very diluted paint and rather use my finger pressure to adjust the amount of air I need.

                  Cheers,
                  Wabble

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                  • Tim Marlow
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18873
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Waspie
                    Not you your explanation, my lack of knowledge about the system. I have seen a few airbrushes with a small knurled knob in front of the airline, would that be what you are referring?
                    That sounds like a MAC valve.

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                    • langy71
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1947
                      • Chris
                      • Nottingham

                      #25
                      If it helps, I tend to spray at around 10 to 15 psi, and I set this with the trigger pulled, that way I get a constant flow of air at the psi I've set...dynamic airflow as opposed to static pressure

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                      • Waspie
                        • Mar 2023
                        • 3488
                        • Doug
                        • Fraggle Rock

                        #26
                        Originally posted by langy71
                        If it helps, I tend to spray at around 10 to 15 psi, and I set this with the trigger pulled, that way I get a constant flow of air at the psi I've set...dynamic airflow as opposed to static pressure
                        I'm usually running at 15-18psi as I tend to use fairly light mixes. Works for me!!

                        (TBH, it's which needle to use is my dilemma. 0-2, 0.3 or 0.5!! - Guess I'll work it out eventually).

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                        • Ian M
                          Administrator
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 18257
                          • Ian
                          • Falster, Denmark

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Andy T
                          Not very scientific I know, but then neither is airbrushing :smiling4:
                          Says the Guy that paints cars for a living lol.
                          Group builds

                          Bismarck

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                          • Andy T
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2021
                            • 3238
                            • Sheffield

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Ian M
                            Says the Guy that paints cars for a living lol.
                            Haha, I think that's where it comes from Ian.

                            Give me a pot of silver and I can get several different shades out of it by varying air pressure, distance, film thickness, air temperature, you name it. I've gotten so used to working on the fly that it spills over into my airbrushing.

                            Maybe if I were more consistent I'd get better results :thinking:

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