need airbrush help plz ::::::

[Guest]

Hope all goes well Moni.

Do not forget to mix the paint. On average it does not need it as the whole thing lays in suspension. Vallejo say roll the bottle on the table stops the bubbles you get when shaking. Also the little top flicks off and you can use a knitting needle (you must have one !) to give a gentle stir (Australian way is left about, anti clockwise, I believe).

We wait in suspension !

Laurie

[tanktrack]

I agree with what has been stated and you will learn from the experience most of all don't give up

[monica]

thank you Laurie, Steve, so with all whats advice been give the base to start at is about 25 % thinner to primmer and try at PSI, 20 first then alter if needed try up by 5 or down by 5, ,right ?

and if all dose go well , what mix of paint to thinner for the air colors ? please

[Ian M]

Air color does not need thinning it is ready to go. Shake well put it in the airbrush and go for it.

Having said that, there are some that thin it a LITTLE as they spray at low pressure, and with a fine needle.

Try it "out the bottle" and see how that goes.

Ian M

[john i am]

Monica I always thin my model air paint a little 1:5 drop ratio in the cup thinner 1st either a blowback mix or depending on how much paint used stir with a cocktail stick it seems to work well for me with no issues to date I'm to scared to go straight from the bottle but whichever you go you will find one that suits you in the end good luck cheers John

[Guest]

I think Moni that we are all firing answers at you, which is great, but I am sure now confusing.

So to give you a programme that will encompass all.

1. Keep your brush clean.

2. Try as Ian has said Model Air un-thinned. Try Air pressures for 25PSI 20, 15.

3. Try thinning (my recommendation especially with a .3 nozzle/needle) 10% using 25PSI 20 15.

This will give a fair idea. Then keep practising over and again as it pays hugh dividends.

This is what Vallejo say. But in the end I would bet most have their own ways gauged by experience which is what you will find.

Laurie

5.2. Must I use a thinner for the Model Air Colors?

Model Air can be applied without using thinners, but even so, we find that

almost everyone has the habit of thinning the product no matter the size of

the needle. Please see point 5.3.

5.3.If I want to use a thinner, what product and in what proportion do

you recommend?

Our airbrush specialists claim that a thinner is not necessary, but they

consider it can be used up to a ratio of 1:3. The Vallejo Airbrush Thinner

(Ref. 71.061) does not change the adherence or coverage of the Model Air

colors, and delays the need for cleaning the airbrush.

[monica]

great Laurie, thank you ,so very much,so that my check list, and thats less confusing,

I will follow that and see how I go if not up and down PSI, and maybe acouple more drops off thinners if needed

ratio of 1.3 means if im right 1 paint 3 thinners ? right

[Guest]

What sort of Airbrush are you using? gravity or Siphon and what brand is it? I have heard really bad reports on those cheap Chinese imitations (not saying you have one!) Also Check the vallejo website and go to the downloads section and download Vallejo FAQS as this might help considering you are using Vallejo products.

[monica]

hi John thank, you its a gravity feed one,, :P well you guessed it ; a cheap chinese one lol,

i will do that some re-some the % rate and scales working out i always have problems with , just old i think

[monica]

well all after all your help and advice we had success Im happy how it turned out still a little ,little tiny bit off splattering,

and i would say that me not real mixing right just a few tiny drops some times when restarting to spray, ops:

I used PSI 25 with a mix like 12 to 4 or 26 to 9 so what ever % that is sprayed and then when back over again so its just my mixing that needs a fix

hear the pics off what i did test on after some paper ,

so thank you all very very much and i do real appreciate all your advice and help -cheers lads

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[Guest]

Glad to hear you worked it out-and good to hear it is a gravity, those siphon fed ones can be a real pain

John

[monica]

hi John oh so lucky i did not get one off them ,lol as i asked the lads for advice before i got my one, and it came with a cheap chineses one so better to wreck that one

than a costly one and once i get better will spend the cash on a good one

[Guest]

Hope all goes well Moni.Do not forget to mix the paint. On average it does not need it as the whole thing lays in suspension. Vallejo say roll the bottle on the table stops the bubbles you get when shaking. Also the little top flicks off and you can use a knitting needle (you must have one !) to give a gentle stir (Australian way is left about, anti clockwise, I believe).

We wait in suspension !

Laurie

I have found that some Model Air paint tends to clump in the bottle after a few weeks and this has caused blockages in the AB. I shake all paint very vigorously (but not varnish), helped by an m4 stainless steel nut (they are quite cheap) in each bottle. This stirs the paint up well. I have never had bubbles. Without that I find that some paints (the lighter colours are more visible) can be seen still settled in the bottom of the bottle after only gentle shaking. I would never just roll the bottle as Vallejo advises.

Its amazing what works and doesn't work for different people.

[monica]

hello Steve, can always relies on you for good tips hints and advice thank you so much, and that sounds as

a very good idea as i have noticed that looking at the bottle that the paint settles in the bottom and ever with

at lot off shaking I know meant to roll, that still it dose not mix right, only some colors i have do it,

so next trip to the shops will pickup so and add to each bottle o_O

[Guest]

Found the majority of Model Air is in equal suspension. A few and you can tell those by putting them under a bright light have settled. Turn upside down and those well mixed will show a clear bottom.

Those that need some help. Best way I found is to flick the top off and give a gentle stir with a rod which soon brings them up to speed.

Now using an Iwata Eclipse HP-BS with a .35 needle/nozzle and it seems to take everything thrown at it. Use 30psi. Also gives a superb finish best I have managed yet.

Laurie