Acrylic or enamel?

[BarryW]

Vallejo and AKI acrylics for me.


I just see all the mixing of artists tube acrylic as too much flaffing around.

[Guest]

Thanks for all your responses. I see a lot of you use Vallejo acrylics and I get the distinct impressions that the majority on the forum consider them to be the best so I will definately try them next time. Cheers. Keith.

[BarryW]

Thanks for all your responses. I see a lot of you use Vallejo acrylics and I get the distinct impressions that the majority on the forum consider them to be the best so I will definately try them next time. Cheers. Keith.

Keith


Vallejo are excellent but us the right type.


Vallejo Model Air are excellent for the airbrush and can be sprayed without thinning, ideally with a 0.3 or over needle. thin for smaller needles.


Vallejo Model Colour are for the hairy stick.

[Guest]

Keith
Vallejo are excellent but us the right type.


Vallejo Model Air are excellent for the airbrush and can be sprayed without thinning, ideally with a 0.3 or over needle. thin for smaller needles.


Vallejo Model Colour are for the hairy stick.

Thanks for that Barry, Vallejo Model Colour it is for me then as I only use a brush, total rubbish with a spray. Mind you I am not that good with a brush either.

[Guest]

enamels are not good for health. they are toxic. that reason i prefer acrylics. i use gunze and (mostly)tamiya acrylics for airbrush, revell and (mostly)vallejo acrylics for brush

[rickoshea52]

Horses for courses. I have recently started using Vallejo Model Air for my build but I still use enamels for my railway builds and for weathering, I find them easier to work with as they can still be manipulated after application for streaking etc.

[Guest]

This is my first model and the paints needed were advised and they happened to be enamels. I started off with them but got fed up having to clean the brushes with thinners and stinking the house out. /QUOTE]
Exactly why I use Acrylics Keith.

Thanks for all your responses. I see a lot of you use Vallejo acrylics and I get the distinct impressions that the majority on the forum consider them to be the best so I will definitely try them next time. Cheers. Keith.

Vallejo (as you have chosen the Acrylic route {got to mention that or I will gather the wrath of the enamellers}) best to begin with as they are very easy to use and you only need water to clean them although best with a cleaner. Except for a few in the Model Range they are non toxic although never tried eating them. Toxic ones are noted on the front label. Nice thing about Vallejo it is kind. If you put on to heavier coat it will on average, unless ridiculously thick, flatten out. This probably more with Model Air (airbrush) than Model hand brush. All the water based acrylics do dry quickly an advantage sometimes at others a disadvantage. Normally second coat within an hour or less. In the pallet the paint thickens quickly and it is worth getting some retarder although this ironically will then lengthen the drying process for successive coats.


Found that for hand brushing the Model type goes on to give a very dense coat. Model Air has a part to play with hand brushing. I use it on 1/48 aircrew. It gives a mid transparent finish giving a bit more realism with shadow on folds of clothes. Whereas Model, I find, tends to flatten them out.


I am now going for a mixture as this broadens the colours available. Lifecolor and Mig Acrylics although they are more prepared for airbrushing than hand brushing. They all are water based but have a few different characteristics. I would say stick to Vallejo until you get the feel then broaden out. Recommend using Vallejo thinners which has the same characteristics of the paint and which thins the paint colour density not the actual density of the paint


For cleaning I would go for Vallejo Airbrush cleaner it is the best cleaner I have come across both for Airbrush and for Hand brushes. With the brushes I quarter fill a Colemans mustard small glass jar and suspend the brushes just clear of the bottom. With Acrylic water based going off so fast the paint accumulates at the stock. I dip in cleaner and work it into the join of the hair and metal with my fingers. Keeps your hands clean as well at the same time. Nothing like multi tasking.


Laurie

[Guest]

enamels are not good for health. they are toxic. that reason i prefer acrylics. i use gunze and (mostly)tamiya acrylics for airbrush, revell and (mostly)vallejo acrylics for brush

To be honest I had never considered the health issues in using enamels but maybe you have a point. It is the blasted smell and that of the thinners that I can't stand, it stinks the house out and that causes my wife to complain, takes all the fun out of it

[Guest]

hmmm i might have to dig out my collection of artists acrylic paints i didn't know you could use them i thought the model paint acrylic had some kind of additive in it to help it adhere to the plastic.

[Guest]

i thought the model paint acrylic had some kind of additive in it to help it adhere to the plastic.

The primers do Dave. Top coats while adhering to plastic have not the same ability as the primer


Laurie

[Guest]

thanks laurie i did plan to use a primer but i have never a rattle tin or an airbrush only ever used a brush so if you could get a brush on primer with no smell to it that would be perfect for me

[Guest]

For what it's worth, Vallejo primer brushes on very well, pick your brush wisely - suggest a chisel synthetic sable of around 10-12 mm and be prepared to give it a couple of coats.

[colin m]

Thanks for that Barry, Vallejo Model Colour it is for me then as I only use a brush, total rubbish with a spray. Mind you I am not that good with a brush either.

I thin model colour with water or Vallejo's own brand thinner for spraying. It works for me.

[Guest]

thanks laurie i did plan to use a primer but i have never a rattle tin or an airbrush only ever used a brush so if you could get a brush on primer with no smell to it that would be perfect for me

Vallejo primer is OK for both brush and airbrush Dave. Large areas perhaps experiement with thinnercoats rather than one thick.


Forgot to add and it does not smell.


Laurie

[Guest]

there is another brand for brush painting. warhammer players use them to paint figures. Brand name is Citadel. it is very brush friendly, easy to paint. i never tried it but i heard very good comments about it. even you can use it with synthetic brushes, it doesnt leave brush prints behind.


i dont know it is ok to send a link like this page but here is a link for you.


http://www.games-workshop.com/en-EU/Painting-Modelling?N=102285+4294966611Ν=product.repositoryI d&qty=12&sorting=phl&view=table