Vallejo Model Paint

[Guest]

Right, I'm off to Portman Road to watch Town slaughter Brentford (Sorry Patrick!!). I'll regret it, as ever - £60 for two seats (tiny, tiny cramped seats) is taking the mickey.

[Guest]

Firstly Keith Vallejo Model or Model Air is a first class line of paints in the Acrylic range. You can try others which I have and although there may be Lifecolor or Mig which are fractionally better you have to be experienced to find the difference.


So Keith you must be doing something wrong got the wrong paint or the paint bottle you have is duff.


First as others have said take the top off and stir with a stick right to the bottom and stir and stir.


Then try the paint on a surface other than your model to test with out thinning. Then thin until you get the consistency which you find comfortable.


Next. Painting gloss. You have to have a consistent undercoat ie no part primer shining thro or it will see thro the white gloss coat. White is a thin colour the opposite of black so the coverage of white is thin. Gloss white is more than slightly transparent.


So you need a base coat of matt white. Then a coat of gloss can be added. Better still use matt white and then a Vallejo polyurethene acrylic varnish which I think you will get a better finish especially hand brushing.


Next thin your paint not your patience


When you start mixing paints you will find the dropper on the Vallejo pots far better as you can gauge the mix drop for drop. Dropper also stops the paint drying out which tins do not. Also tins tip over dropper bottles do as well but no spillage.


Laurie

[Guest]

John, you are right, I am getting fed up with it. I am at the point where I am ready to throw the whole bloody lot in the bin and take up knitting instead. I will give it a rest for now, too fed up to carry on, I will come back to it after a short break. It doesn't help my oncologist has changed my meds, always upsets my system for a while. Will be bright and breezy again in a day or two, just ignore my moans and groans for now.

[Guest]

Thanks Laurie, I have taken note, will give it a go after a little break.

[dave]

Keith, it sounds to me like you have a bottle that has spent a long time on the shops shelf. I had one like this and it required a lot of shaking with a nut in the bottle to get it evenly mixed. I haven't used the gloss white but I know one or two other Vallejo colours that do tend to separate quite quickly and always need shaking.

[Guest]

Right, I'm off to Portman Road to watch Town slaughter Brentford (Sorry Patrick!!). I'll regret it, as ever - £60 for two seats (tiny, tiny cramped seats) is taking the mickey.

John! I didn't know that you are a " tractor boy "! I know you did us at home, but I'm hoping for justice today!

[Guest]

Keep at it Keith! Although I'm a confirmed enamel user (it's not too late to join us 'proper ' painters!) , I do sometimes use Vallejo for brush painting small parts & I've never had the issues you've described.


I made myself a paint stirrer that fits into the bottle once the nozzle is removed - far easier than shaking it to blazes!


Tinlets vs bottles?


In my experience, Vallejo is just as likely to come out in spurts rather than drops! Plus do we religiously count each drop?


If the nozzle bit isn't cleaned after use, it WILL harden & clog. The same result if I don't run a cotton bud around the rim of a tinlet.


Plus with enamels, you can handle the painted part within 24 hours & not have it rub off!

[spanner570]

I've just re-read the opening writings....


Part of the coverage problem will be using grey primer for a white top coat.


Remember the brush users prayer.......Dark over light.


Don't give up, it's fun.....

[Guest]

John! I didn't know that you are a " tractor boy "! I know you did us at home, but I'm hoping for justice today!

Yeah, well you got it really! Am now a part-time tractor boy who actually prefers Rugby now. Ref was the usual standard of current crop, ie rubbish! Your boys played their hearts out and your away fans did you proud! But £60 for the two of us, that's a third of a season ticket at Bayern Munich...

[Guest]

I have decided to completly remove all paint on some parts of the model. I cannot rub it down anymore because I will lose detail and ruin it. What sort of paint remover can I paint on that will not damage the model?

[Alan 45]

Oven cleaner works Kieth I use Mr muscle

[Guest]

Oven cleaner works Kieth I use Mr muscle

Okay thanks, I will give it a try.

[Alan 45]

Okay thanks, I will give it a try.

Just put it in a bag and spray it all over the model and seal it up


I forgot to mention that bit

[Guest]

Just put it in a bag and spray it all over the model and seal it up
I forgot to mention that bit

Okay thanks, seen my wife do that to the oven trays.

[Guest]

I've just re-read the opening writings....
Part of the coverage problem will be using grey primer for a white top coat.


Remember the brush users prayer.......Dark over light.


Don't give up, it's fun.....

Dark over light. Okay, originally I used a spray can and put on a white primer but I am a rubbish sprayer and had to rub it down. I then tried to get a brush on white primer but could only get grey, bear in mind my nearest supplier is a 30 mile round trip. I put on the grey no problem. I then put on the acrylic white coat, it took 4 coats and covered it perfectly. Unfortunately it was artist's paint and left brush marks so I had to rub it down again. This left some small patches with grey primer showing through. I then tried painting on Vellejo White but it didn't cover the grey at all, it was transparent. Following advice I took the nozzle of and gave it a thorough stir. I then sprayed again with white primer to get an even white covered base, this time it went on smoothly. I am now ready to again put on the top coats. The Vallejo is thicker than it was originally, but still very poor coverage. I have ordered some Humbrol acrylic and will try that when it arrives. Will keep you posted.