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  • John
    Administrator
    • Mar 2004
    • 4622
    • John
    • Halifax

    #1

    AK real colour and varnish

    I’ve never use Real colour paints so I thought I would give them a try, I thinned 50/50 with Mr Color thinner, they sprayed really well and I got a nice finish, I’m a bit confused what is the best varnish to use, they are advertised as an acrylic lacquer which I a bit confusing, I have a rattle can of Humbrol acrylic varnish, I sprayed it on and it’s reacted with it, it’s got very light bubbles and gone transparent in places, the paints dry, it’s been left about 3 weeks, any ideas what would be a better varnish to use?
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  • JR
    • May 2015
    • 18273

    #2
    Think Andy would be the best to answer this.

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    • Andy T
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2021
      • 3239
      • Sheffield

      #3
      Hi John, I can't think of a good reason for that happening.

      The real colors are what would be classed as a lacquer, so once fully dry (as yours was) they are pretty bomb proof and it shouldn't react with a varnish, unless you really hosed it on from the can. In that case the strong solvents in the rattle can could have reactivated the real color underneath. A few lighter coats to build up the thickness would help if that was the problem.

      All I can suggest is trying a test panel on some scrap card using the same kind of paint and varnish. I've never used the humbrol one but I haven't had any issues with various rattle cans over lacquer paint.

      I like the Mr Color super clear cans, although I'm now using automotive ones from ProXL, which come in gloss, satin & matt.

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      • Scratchbuilder
        • Jul 2022
        • 2689

        #4
        Humbrol varnish has become the death knell of models.
        Have a look on YT at The Inner Nerd, he has just put together a tutorial on spraying which might help you as he does deal with varnishing.



        Last edited by John; 28 September 2024, 18:07. Reason: Added video tags

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        • John
          Administrator
          • Mar 2004
          • 4622
          • John
          • Halifax

          #5
          Thanks Andy, I will don’t think I went too heavy but it’s sometimes hard to tell with a can, I might try using some in my airbrush
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          • Jim R
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            • Apr 2018
            • 15638
            • Jim
            • Shropshire

            #6
            With the very wet weather recently resulting in high humidity could that be the problem rather than incompatible paints. I have heard that varnish can go milky when used in high humidity situations.
            Just a thought as I've no experience of AK Real Colour or Humbrol varnish.

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            • John
              Administrator
              • Mar 2004
              • 4622
              • John
              • Halifax

              #7
              I've got a couple of bottles of RC varnish, that should work fine, I will spray it on
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              • John
                Administrator
                • Mar 2004
                • 4622
                • John
                • Halifax

                #8
                I used the RC varnish, when I looked it this morning it looked like someone had sprinkled candy floss on it
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                • Flip
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jul 2022
                  • 257
                  • John
                  • Speyside

                  #9
                  Andy T said "The real colors are what would be classed as a lacquer"

                  I have no direct experience of the RC Colors but I do use lacquers all the time (Tamiya LP and MRP).
                  My go-to varnish is Tamiya (LP9, LP23 & LP24), diluted with retarder-type thinners, right up to the top of the bottle.
                  Works like a dream.

                  Jim R said "varnish can go milky when used in high humidity situations". Very true. I've had that happen and you will know if that's happened as the parts will go white. A quick re-coat of varnish will cure that. I tend to immediately put parts onto the mantelpiece after that to keep them as warm as possible until the varnish has cured (yes, I do get SWMBO's permission ?)

                  The fact that it looks like 'candy floss' is pointing more to an issue with the RC paint. I presume you mean some form of mottled appearance. Is is sand-able to take it back a bit to re-coat?

                  Personally, I would use the AB to get a quick coat of one of the Tamiya LPs above on it, if it can be sanded back.

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                  • John
                    Administrator
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 4622
                    • John
                    • Halifax

                    #10
                    I’ve got some cans of Vallejo varnish, I sprayed that on after cleaning the candy floss off and it’s much better, I prefer to use rattle cans for varnish, I can never tell if my ab is completely clean after using them, unlike paint
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