recognize your paints and color chart query

[Guest]

Firstly i have loads of Vallejo paints to put into a rack so the base or cap can be exposed to identify the color. But the colors in the bottles dry different shade and give you with misleaded looks , i had an idea of paint the caps of each bottle but sounds a bit messy any advise please.


Secondly color charts if i want a new color i look on my vallejo color chart which at times is easy but some of the colors seem different in the box is this due to how many layers you apply going from light to dark?

[john i am]

Wish I could help as I have 100+ bottles I did paint the tops of the bottles myself but it didn't really help.Also an accurate conversion chart would be great but for now I just use my vallejo colour chart which I laminated so I hope someone helps with this dilemma and I'll be watching with great interest cheers John

[Guest]

Colour charts vary from misleading to totally useless, despite amazing technology etc etc, if you don't believe me, paint a patch of the actual colour onto the chart and see the difference. And most folks use an online chart, which is a lottery as most don't have their monitors calibrated regularly. If you want an accurate chart, make it! Stiff card or watercolour paper, leave enough space for annotation and paint a small patch, doesn't have to be neat, just big enough to see clearly.


I have no idea how anyone could keep tabs on over 100 colours, and Ive never seen an artist with more than 50 or so individual colours (and most will have less than 30).


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Here is a professional tin of Artist's watercolors, 22 pans and it'll make millions of different colours! I love mixing colours almost as much as painting with them. You soon get experienced at it, and that experience will save you money!

[tanktrack]

what I tend to do is get a sheet of white plastic and paint a line or square on it and add the colour code beside it and use it like a colour swatch and this gives me an idea as to what it looks like when dried .

[john i am]

Colour charts vary from misleading to totally useless, despite amazing technology etc etc, if you don't believe me, paint a patch of the actual colour onto the chart and see the difference. And most folks use an online chart, which is a lottery as most don't have their monitors calibrated regularly. If you want an accurate chart, make it! Stiff card or watercolour paper, leave enough space for annotation and paint a small patch, doesn't have to be neat, just big enough to see clearly.
I have no idea how anyone could keep tabs on over 100 colours, and Ive never seen an artist with more than 50 or so individual colours (and most will have less than 30).


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Your right I can't keep tabs on my paints but suffering from OCD and hoarding syndrome I have to have the full set of anything and everything.I will probably never use all of them but it's still nice to have them in my rack ready for use if "ever" they are needed

[Guest]

Your right I can't keep tabs on my paints but suffering from OCD and hoarding syndrome I have to have the full set of anything and everything.I will probably never use all of them but it's still nice to have them in my rack ready for use if "ever" they are needed

This being the case, you ought to be able to gain a fair bit of satisfaction organising your own colour swatches, the great advantage being you will immediately see all of the colours as they actually appear on the surface. It'll be better than any printed one, purely for the fact that it hasn't been made with ink (as 99.9% of colour charts are!!) you'll also have the advantage of discovering which colours dry lighter and which dry darker. I used to make my students do this in their early days at college, they mostly moaned like hell, but I've had countless thankyous from them later in life, once they realised what an advantage they gained through it

[john i am]

This being the case, you ought to be able to gain a fair bit of satisfaction organising your own colour swatches, the great advantage being you will immediately see all of the colours as they actually appear on the surface. It'll be better than any printed one, purely for the fact that it hasn't been made with ink (as 99.9% of colour charts are!!) you'll also have the advantage of discovering which colours dry lighter and which dry darker. I used to make my students do this in their early days at college, they mostly moaned like hell, but I've had countless thankyous from them later in life, once they realised what an advantage they gained through it

Cheers John it had crossed my mind previously I suppose if I primed a piece or two of a4 plastic card in white primer and then added all the colours one by one (arghhh) using a brush maybe as opposed to an airbrush it would be a great point of reference.Its just finding the time and the patience

[zuludog]

Years ago I got some stiff white card and made up my own colour charts. It was easy enough adding those colours I was using, but for those not used as much, now and again I would fill in a couple of the gaps. So the charts were produced over a few weeks; I certainly wouldn't attempt to do it all at once, that would be really tedious. Very often I did this at night, when I was too tired to do any proper modelling, but not tired enough to go to bed.


Besides standard colours the charts were useful for my own mixtures of things like exhausts & tyres


I have returned to model making after a break of several years, and those charts have become a bit scruffy, and I no longer have some of the original colours or tins, or new ones have been purchased, so I will be repeating the process

[Ian M]

I put a blob of paint in the small dimple in the top of the lid. works for me...


Also Vallejo do a swatch book that is not printed but each colour is painted with a brush on the card so what you see is what you get. These are not free but do pay for themselves quickly in as much as you can get the right colour first time.


Ian M

[Guest]

This is a nightmare to me (being colour blind) I have to use the colours on the instructions as I have no idea by looking what colour a model should be (which is why I often ask for colour advice) it used to worry my customers no end (used to be a Tattooist ) but my colours were all clearly labeled and I would ask my victims, sorry customers if I was at all unsure (I dread to think how my first customers tatts looked as untill I tried to join the army I didn't know I was, turns out I'm very colour blind)

[Guest]

Although it gives an idea of the colour painting the black lid gives a false colour unless you plaster 4 or 5 coats on as the black top will come through.


There is from Microsoft 7 onwards a facility to calibrate monitors. Providing your monitor has the facility to be able to do that you can get reasonably close. You can then print the cards.


If you want to get really close then Vallejo do a hand made colour card. Not free though.


Laurie

[monica]

some think like tht is all just to simple to me,i spend so much time looking for a paint,


but you think i would do that no just dose not happen lol,


my table is like the weeping statue from Doc Who,keep getting closer and closer,


good idea to do,by the way or put them in color groups of what there are,