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  • aaron
    • Oct 2011
    • 2019

    #16
    I test on plastic spoons and I prime everything.

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    • Guest

      #17
      Originally posted by \
      Patrick how can you say it's wrong if ive proved it ?
      It seems your brain washed to believe this stuff
      There's one small snag with your somewhat rude response, at least with regard to many years of painting full-size aircraft.


      The authorities produce(d) colour samples of how the paint should look, when produced by the paint companies and put into the tin, and modern model paint manufacturers work to the same parameters.


      However, that paint normally goes/went over some type of primer, whether red/silver on between-wars fabric, or grey on RAF WWII aircraft, and, lately, chromate primers on modern aircraft.


      This means that, if you don't use a primer, you are not replicating the real system, and your colours might not be an exact match.

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      • Alan 45
        • Nov 2012
        • 9833

        #18
        Originally posted by \
        There's one small snag with your somewhat rude response, at least with regard to many years of painting full-size aircraft.
        The authorities produce(d) colour samples of how the paint should look, when produced by the paint companies and put into the tin, and modern model paint manufacturers work to the same parameters.


        However, that paint normally goes/went over some type of primer, whether red/silver on between-wars fabric, or grey on RAF WWII aircraft, and, lately, chromate primers on modern aircraft.


        This means that, if you don't use a primer, you are not replicating the real system, and your colours might not be an exact match.
        No not rude Edgar , dyslexic, it means I can sometimes word things differently to how they are typed

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        • stona
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2008
          • 9889

          #19
          Primer serves at least two purposes, as some have noted above and I have a third! When the primer reveals some imperfection it also acts as a guide coat to help you get the finish right.


          To come back to the original question, yes, the colour of your primer can alter the final coat. This can happen at full size as Edgar has noted above. Most people therefore use a neutral grey under most colours. For difficult to cover colours (like yellow) I use a white primer instead.


          You don't have to prime plastic models before painting, but I have discovered over many years that I can achieve better results by doing so. If you're happy not to bother then that's fine too. Cost isn't really an issue as I use Halfords plastic primer, one 3000ml aerosol tin will do several models. Compared to the cost of the model and all the other stuff I end up buying the cost of primer is the least of my concerns


          Cheers


          Steve

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          • Guest

            #20
            Originally posted by \

            Cost isn't really an issue as I use Halfords plastic primer, one 3000ml aerosol tin will do several models. Compared to the cost of the model and all the other stuff I end up buying the cost of primer is the least of my concerns


            Cheers


            Steve
            Wow Steve a 3000ml can must be some size! :P

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            • Guest

              #21
              Originally posted by \
              There's one small snag with your somewhat rude response
              I wasn't bothered by the tone or words of Alan's reply Edgar, I know he didn't mean anything by it.

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              • Guest

                #22
                Originally posted by \


                I prime most of my kits as it seems to be the "norm" but on occasion I have gone straight to paint (mainly figures )and never encountered problems with paint not adhering or lifting etc.Laurie keep your sticky fingers off your figures by inserting a cocktail stick into the part were the sun doesn't shine


                No that restricts me John. But that was not the point. I using the inexperience with the figures sans primer to illustrate avec primer.


                Laurie

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                • Guest

                  #23
                  Originally posted by \
                  There's one small snag with your somewhat rude response,
                  I do not think any body is being rude here Edgar. Just forthright and I do not see a problem in that in fact I welcome it. Much better to state your intentions rather than waffle


                  Laurie

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                  • stona
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 9889

                    #24
                    Originally posted by \
                    Originally posted by \

                    Cost isn't really an issue as I use Halfords plastic primer, one 3000ml aerosol tin will do several models. Compared to the cost of the model and all the other stuff I end up buying the cost of primer is the least of my concerns


                    Cheers


                    Steve
                    Wow Steve a 3000ml can must be some size! :P
                    Yep! 10 times the size of the ones you can actually buy

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                    • Robert1968
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 3596

                      #25
                      If I'm painting figures I do all the tidy up first then a 500 Mr surfaced in the joins a quick tidy up and then use a grey Matt acrylic that I have surplus of but dilute it down 50/50 with acrylic thinners ( this gives a light finish to the fig to be painted) and also shows up any blemishes needing attention. I have used car spray primers but I struggle with overspray so thought the 50/50 with thinners a better first spray with a/b. To be honest it's all about taste and choice of the modeller. What one modeller does is their choice as to another

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                      • john i am
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 4019

                        #26
                        Originally posted by \
                        No that restricts me John. But that was not the point. I using the inexperience with the figures sans primer to illustrate avec primer.
                        Laurie
                        Sorry I missed your point Laurie I was just concerned you were rubbing the paint of your figures (as you stated) when handling them just trying to be helpful as to how useful a cocktail stick can be.ill go back into my corner

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                        • Guest

                          #27
                          Originally posted by \
                          Sorry I missed your point Laurie I was just concerned you were rubbing the paint of your figures (as you stated) when handling them just trying to be helpful as to how useful a cocktail stick can be.ill go back into my corner
                          This is not surprising John I talk in riddles. No body laughs at them either and Pauline hates them. But I try.


                          Laurie

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