Help Required - Burnt Steel.

[Guest]

Hey, I'm in the middle of building a 1:35 Type 5 Chi-Ri from FineMolds.


For the exhaust cover i'm looking to do a rather rusty burnt steel look but i'm unsure how to replicate it, so any tips or even video tutorial would be amazing I'm using matt enamel paints brushed by hand.


There's no rush at the moment. That will be one of the last things ill paint and the kit has a fair amount of parts for the guns and it even came with magic tracks. Cutting them out and cleaning them is very time consuming but man those tracks are amazing compared to sag-less vinyl or easily broken and bent workable tracks, but still cheaper than metal


Cheers


Jason


PS If you have done a Chi-ri feel free to link it so i can take a look

[Alan 45]

You can get rust colour in enamel or you can use rust powders , I think mig do three types, old mid and new rust , the good things about powder is it can give a crusty effect , I usually dip a brush in water then into the powder and bust it on to get a blackened look you can just dry brush some black matt on a few places

[Guest]

do you want tutorial for something like this one ?

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[eddiesolo]

I have a burnt steel pigment, I also use it with rust and orange clear.

[grumpa]

If this looks OK to you, I just mixed a dirty rusty color, dry brushed it over a very dark wash and dry brushed some dirty black over that, I use water based "craft" paint, hope the much more expensive model paints work as well [ATTACH]116373.IPB[/ATTACH]

............Jim

[Guest]

All very good tips!


I was thinking:


Rust color


Dab some maskall on it


Give it a base color coat


Give it a dark wash


Take the maskall off


Give it a streaky rust wash.


Then i could add pigments. I have Rust Red (unknown) and Standard Rust (MiG) but all iv done is dry brush them on. Iv heard of using turps as a fixer? If so, lets say i dipped a brush into turps then into the pigment then applied some, would i be able to wipe off the excess and reuse it or would it be unusable?


Also what do you think of those steps? I could see it working but i don't know how the enamel will work with maskall... should be ok right?


Also #2 While getting stuck into the magic tracks i almost took off a finger with my new super sharp blade set so unable to continue with that until it heals pmsl. (Its between the index and middle finger)

do you want tutorial for something like this one ?

If you have a link to one then yes, but don't go away and waste your time making one.


One last thing seeing as your all really good modelers (And saves me making another post about it) Humbrol and Revell enamals seem to go on really thin and... Well yeah thin, i got some Revell Matt Enamal White which im doing the interior with, however it has taken 5 coats!!!! That's not normal is it? Iv used beige (Revell matt enamel) and that was a one coat wonder for all my early builds about 4 months ago so im confused :S The gloss white needed two coats when i done an interior for another tank.


[EDIT]

You can get rust colour in enamel or you can use rust powders , I think mig do three types, old mid and new rust , the good things about powder is it can give a crusty effect , I usually dip a brush in water then into the powder and bust it on to get a blackened look you can just dry brush some black matt on a few places

I have a rust red matt enamel from revell and its more of a pink, so it will need some washes i think.

I have a burnt steel pigment, I also use it with rust and orange clear.

Burnt steel blue? What if the tank has no blue on it? Does it look ok?

[Guest]

All the suggestions are good ones. My way is pretty simple, paint the exhaust black or dark grey & sprinkle bicarbonate of soda over it while the paint is still wet.


Once dry, add washes of varying shades from dark brown through to orange.


This is how I did my Jagdpanther exhausts


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[Guest]

All the suggestions are good ones. My way is pretty simple, paint the exhaust black or dark grey & sprinkle bicarbonate of soda over it while the paint is still wet.
Once dry, add washes of varying shades from dark brown through to orange.

What would be a few alternatives to bicarbonate of soda?


[EDIT] And btw, those look so real :P

[Ian M]

Raid the wife's kitchen and knick the baking powder.... Aka bicarbonate of soda.... Just saying.

[Guest]

Raid the wife's kitchen and knick the baking powder.... Aka bicarbonate of soda.... Just saying.

I don't have a wife, but damnit i have a kitchen! No baking powder tho :P Ill get some next time im out, could be a while my fingers a bit of a mess atm :P

[Marc Stock]

I don't have a wife, but damnit i have a kitchen! No baking powder tho :P Ill get some next time im out, could be a while my fingers a bit of a mess atm :P

Wife's are overrated.

[Guest]

What would be a few alternatives to bicarbonate of soda?
[EDIT] And btw, those look so real :P

As Ian said, baking powder is the same & readily available from any shop!


The reason why it's the best is due to it's crystalline structure & its permanence - I don't know of anything else that does the same job.


btw thanks!

[Guest]

PS the best thing for cuts made with very sharp craft knives? Superglue! Better & quicker than a plaster, especially in awkward places.

[grumpa]

All the suggestions are good ones. My way is pretty simple, paint the exhaust black or dark grey & sprinkle bicarbonate of soda over it while the paint is still wet.
Once dry, add washes of varying shades from dark brown through to orange.


This is how I did my Jagdpanther exhausts


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I like that procedure Patrick, I think it looks really good and it's nice and simple

[Guest]

PS the best thing for cuts made with very sharp craft knives? Superglue! Better & quicker than a plaster, especially in awkward places.

Way ahead of you hahaha, that was the first thing i done (after mopping up and stopping the blood :P )

Wife's are overrated.

Not if they enjoy modeling lol, but im still young, cant even take care of myself half the time so how would i be able to take care of a woman and child hahahahaha.

As Ian said, baking powder is the same & readily available from any shop!
The reason why it's the best is due to it's crystalline structure & its permanence - I don't know of anything else that does the same job.


btw thanks!

Yeah, once i'm able to use my fingers again ill have a wee drive and get some supply's