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  • Guest

    #1

    Help clear gloss gone white

    I need some advice. I have painted my bismark hull and let it dry for over a week .I put a clear gloss coating on this morning and have just gone back to it and it has got white flexs all over it any ideas of what has happened and how to fix it thanks.
  • Dave Jay
    • Oct 2015
    • 543

    #2
    Originally posted by \
    I need some advice. I have painted my bismark hull and let it dry for over a week .I put a clear gloss coating on this morning and have just gone back to it and it has got white flexs all over it any ideas of what has happened and how to fix it thanks.
    Sorry to hear about your plight, what clear gloss was it and what did you thin it with and was there any dampness in the air when you painted it?

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    • Guest

      #3
      Originally posted by \
      Sorry to hear about your plight, what clear gloss was it and what did you thin it with and was there any dampness in the air when you painted it?
      Yes hi it is humbrol clear gloss and it was thined with water and it was a bit damp in the air .

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      • Paul Davies
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2014
        • 284

        #4
        I have stopped using humbrol paints as I have found the quality has gone downhill. I recently used gloss spray can and it came out matt finish

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        • Guest

          #5
          Cold at night with temperatures down over night at the weekend. Fog next day. I would bet it is that


          high humidity and record temperatures from the sun pouring down all day. all taking up a mass of


          moisture in the air. as the temperature the air can not support all that moisture and it condenses


          on any surface which is cold.


          Used to have the same when I built in the garage Phil. Used to have a plant propogator which I put


          painted parts in.


          Cannot help with fixing it. I suspect the gloss coating has separated. i take it it has not shown improvement


          at all. guessing it may be moisture within the clear coating if so gentle heat may cure it.


          Laurie

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          • Guest

            #6
            Originally posted by \
            Cold at night with temperatures down over night at the weekend. Fog next day. I would bet it is that
            high humidity and record temperatures from the sun pouring down all day. all taking up a mass of


            moisture in the air. as the temperature the air can not support all that moisture and it condenses


            on any surface which is cold.


            Used to have the same when I built in the garage Phil. Used to have a plant propogator which I put


            painted parts in.


            Cannot help with fixing it. I suspect the gloss coating has separated. i take it it has not shown improvement


            at all. guessing it may be moisture within the clear coating if so gentle heat may cure it.


            Laurie
            Thanks I will give that a go

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            • rickoshea52
              SMF Supporters
              • Dec 2011
              • 4076
              • Rick

              #7
              Humbrol Clear? Hmmm. I've had the same problem which is why I've relegated it to canopies and cockpit transfers. I have gone back to Railmatch acrylic varnish.
              On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
              Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
              Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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              • Guest

                #8
                Originally posted by \
                Humbrol Clear? Hmmm. I've had the same problem which is why I've relegated it to canopies and cockpit transfers. I have gone back to Railmatch acrylic varnish.
                Was it Humbrol "Clear" which is different from Humbrol Gloss Varnish.


                What problems have you had Rick ?. Worked perfectly for me in all ways. Works well airbrushing and is very resilient to use. Easy to clean the airbrush which is not for many varnishes.


                If it was Humbrol Clear mixing with water as Phil has stated and it was Humbrol Clear as opposed to Humbrol, that may be the problem. Humbrol Clear is so thin you do not need to thin.


                Laurie

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                • dave
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1828
                  • Brussels

                  #9
                  Humbrol Clear has always worked well for me.


                  Recently tried the Humbrol Clear Matt and that looked like the model had been sprayed with white paint, going to have to do a little experimentation with it to try different conditions.

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                  • rickoshea52
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4076
                    • Rick

                    #10
                    Originally posted by \
                    Was it Humbrol "Clear" which is different from Humbrol Gloss Varnish.
                    What problems have you had Rick ?. Worked perfectly for me in all ways. Works well airbrushing and is very resilient to use. Easy to clean the airbrush which is not for many varnishes.


                    If it was Humbrol Clear mixing with water as Phil has stated and it was Humbrol Clear as opposed to Humbrol, that may be the problem. Humbrol Clear is so thin you do not need to thin.


                    Laurie
                    This stuff....I don't rate it.


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                    On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
                    Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
                    Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Isnt humbrol clear a enamol/oil based product? Perhaps its the water thats caused it?

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        No, it's an acrylic & is cleaned with water. I've never had any problems with it.


                        Usually it's a matt coat that can display a white ' bloom ' - I've never heard of gloss products doing it.


                        However, the ' white flecks ' sound more like dust particles or some other contaminant in the Clear, rather than humidity / airborne moisture problems.

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Originally posted by \
                          Isnt humbrol clear a enamol/oil based product? Perhaps its the water thats caused it?
                          Humbrol Clear Dave is water soluble.


                          Laurie

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Actually chaps we do not know what Humbrol product we are talking about.


                            Phil is it Humbrol "Clear" or another of their varnish products ?


                            Laurie

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                            • colin m
                              Moderator
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 8740
                              • Colin
                              • Stafford, UK

                              #15
                              Originally posted by \
                              Usually it's a matt coat that can display a white ' bloom '
                              Same here. I've had Vallejo matt varnish produce little white spots all over the place - getting tired of Vallejo..........

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