Vallejo primer. What am I doing wrong?

[Guest]

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Scott

[Guest]

And if Grumpa can make such awesome dios using simple hobby-shop acrylics, the n we could all learn something from him. There are many modellers out there making pure magic with their imaginations and ingenuity, embrace the diversity and share it. Hippy moment has passed, as you were...

[Guest]

Damn this malt whisky...

[Razzie43]

What I read here is incredible!!


I never have problems with vallejo air and model color.


But i never use a tape on my paint!! (and i don't gonna try now to see what happen :P )


I use plasticine (for kids in colours) if you want a camoflage


After my paint i go directly on with powder of MIG Pigments and i sealed with thinner of Humbrol (nothing else or i have troubles)


Washes from AK and Mig are enamel seals also the paint and again clean it with thinner from humbrol.....

[Gern]

I have no intention of moving exclusively to enamels (sorry Patrick!) because I'm happy with the results I get from Vallejo provided I use the Halfords primer first. It's just that I can't use any spray can primer indoors so my painting is very restricted in the winter months. My modelling is slow enough without losing two or three months a year 'cos it's too cold or wet to work outside!


I think I'll get that spray booth and take it from there. I'll have the option then to use either sort of paint and maybe even a spray can indoors if the booth works well enough.Thanks everyone for the quick replies.

[Guest]

O Dave there I was deeply involved in a sabbatical away from this forum. When by a magnetic whim


I decided to read this forum. Not your fault it was another who is -----------------


Your problem is probably quite simple. You need at least 24 but best 48 hours before even touching


Vallejo primer. Plus before wet and dry the plastic to get rid of the shine and also give bite to the primer.


before priming clean with IPA with a brush not a cloth as the cloth will leave fibres.


However. Stynylerez primer is a revelation. It can be wet and dried within the hour. Stick with Tamiya tape


and sprayed with Vallejo Model Air. Yes all within the hour. Stynylerez has virtually no smell. I have used it a


number of times now and have not had any problems like *%&&U()_$ that have been suggested..


Try that Dave and you will be amazed.


But beware of the enamel camel. He has the hump.


Laurie


Slumber back to the sabbatical.

[Dave Jay]

I can see this going the same way as before. Keeping out of it right now!

[Gern]

..... and here was me thinking I had a nice, simple problem to solve without the lid coming off the can of worms again!


's a good job we're all mates on here innit!

[Dave Jay]

Mention paint on here Dave and it opens a 10 litre can of dulux worms mate!!!


Wouldn't it be nice to keep it simple!

[The Migrant]

That's the one I have Dave, got it from the same place, great price, quick service............just get it, it's great, I couldn't do without it. It pulls the paint particles away quickly, filters them and exhausts virtually fresh Air.

Is the extractor fan noisy, Dave? I'm quite interested in one of these.

[Dave Jay]

Is the extractor fan noisy, Dave? I'm quite interested in one of these.

It's not overly noisy, I think they've kept the noise to a minimum. It's a great unit, in my local model shop they have the same thing for £80+ an extra £20 for the hose just because it's an expo one, to me they are identical!


You can't go wrong.

[Gern]

Just ordered mine. £62 from airbrushonline including the hose and postage.

[The Migrant]

It would actually be cheaper for me to order one from the UK, including shipping, but unfortunately they're 240v and I need 110v, so I'll have to order one 'locally' from the U.S.

[john i am]

Seriously folks sometimes this painting lark is made into a science sometimes.


All the problems that some of you have with vallejo products is shocking (Sorry in advance)


I use vallejo primers all the time followed by model air straight from the bottle no thinners !


Never had any problems whatsoever .


Here is how apply mine.


1 make sure model is clean and dust free ( I always give a final wipe with panel prep automotive cloths from Halfords )


2 spray primer in light mist coats ( sometimes between layers I blast with hair dryer on warm setting)


3 Masking off areas tamiya tape only de-tac on trousers or between finger n thumb apply to model


4 Spray model air straight from bottle no thinners! Flowing stuff or anything just paint!


5 Peel away tape tentatively and gently remember ( how you'd treat a lady )


6 Apply a gloss coat (for me mainly Future or a vallejo gloss/matte)


7 Apply decals


8 Gloss coat to seal decals


9 Washes etc


10 Matte/Gloss coat if required.


I've never waited a month a week two days or 24hrs from primer stage to painting stage in fact numerous times I've gone from step 1-10 in a matter of hours a lot less than 24


Hope this guidance helps with vallejo.............


Just like to add I cannot say the same of tamiya or humbrol acrylic paints as I've yet to tame these beasties but their work in progress and I'm getting there


Anyways good luck everyone.

[yak face]

Personally I always use Halfords aerosol primer Dave , mainly because it shows up anything that needs sorting before final painting and it gives a uniform finish over all the different surfaces (bare plastic , filler, sanded plastic etc.) Ive never really given the adhesion of the top coat much thought , although when painting small parts by brush sometimes I dont bother priming and the vallejo acrylics dont seem to adhere very well , being very partial to rubbing off ,so maybe it does help? If I were you , I'd stick to the halfords rattle can and hopefully you will now be able to do this indoors with the aid of your new extractor , if not maybe decant some and use the airbrush? cheers tony