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  • Guest

    #16
    sorry

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    • Guest

      #17
      Originally posted by \
      You are 100% correct, best to try and be helpful though eh?
      Sorry you didn't find my post helpful. :smile:

      Paint choice is a very much a persoanl decision and one about which many modelers become very animated. My opinion that the reputation Tamiya acrylics have of not being any good for brush painting is very undeserved. They can be brushed to a very nice finish.

      As a bonus, they spray wonderfully.

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      • yak face
        Moderator
        • Jun 2009
        • 13841
        • Tony
        • Sheffield

        #18
        Ive been watching this one with interest, and i feel ive got to add my two pence worth. In my experience yes you can brush tamiya acrylics BUT ive never had a great result on a large area , even with retarders. I use tamiya acrylics all the time (amongst various other brands) and find that small areas can be brushed no problem as long as youre quick, however a larger surface (ie 1/72 aircraft all over camo scheme) is very tricky and doesnt give me a satisfactory finish. I have done full schemes in 1/72 and 1/144 in the past but now just stick to small areas or spraying . The camo on the ki 61 is excellent but is a different kettle of fish to ,say, doing an all over colour, as you said only the blotches were done with tamiya acrylics . If Gobby is wanting to know if you can brush tamiya then yes but with certain limitations , and there are far better paints for getting a satisfactory brushed finish ,for example the aforementioned vallejo and the excellent (although not standard colour matched!) games workshop citadel paints. These can give a flawless finish if thinned a tiny bit and cover very well and have the bonus of spraying superbly too. Tony

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        • mossiepilot
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2011
          • 2272

          #19
          I'll go with Tony on this one.

          I bought some Tamiya acrylics to brush paint the main colour scheme on my P38. The finish is patchy, and no matter what I did, thinning or using it neat, I couldn't get it any better. I've never been so disappointed in my life with the standard of my work. It's as if the paint would not "stick" ?

          Anyway I will not be using Tamiya acrylics for a large areas again - unless santa sorts me a AB - (hope,hope,hope)

          Have fun with your build.

          Tony.

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          • Guest

            #20
            Does this count as a large area?

            Trumpeter 72nd STUG III.

            All Tamiya acrylic. All brushed.

            Sorry your experience has been apparently all been bad. I've found the paint friendly when thinned and retarded properly.

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            • yak face
              Moderator
              • Jun 2009
              • 13841
              • Tony
              • Sheffield

              #21
              Originally posted by \
              Does this count as a large area?Trumpeter 72nd STUG III.

              All Tamiya acrylic. All brushed.

              Sorry your experience has been apparently all been bad. I've found the paint friendly when thinned and retarded properly.
              Nice job, I also have brush painted 1/72 (1/76 )armour with tamiya acrylics with good results but I found anything larger a real struggle. The finish required on an aircraft needs to be quite good regardless of the scale ,its just something i dont think is easily achievable by brushing these paints on larger scale models.Here are a few i have brushed with tamiya , 1/76 armour and 1/144 aircraft ,but anything bigger gets sprayed. cheers tony[ATTACH]41153.IPB[/ATTACH]

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              • Guest

                #22
                Sorry you didn't find my post helpful
                Sorry, I seem to have raised a hackle

                I'm just trying to be helpful

                I think the consensus shows that brush painting Tamiya is a pain without as you say "proper technique" or retarding, why bother when easier alternatives are available

                PS. I love spraying Tamiya, Gunze, Lifecolor etc. & I love brush painting with Vallejo and Andrea

                Use whichever paint you like, if you're happy with your results fine, each to their own

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                • Ian M
                  Administrator
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 18269
                  • Ian
                  • Falster, Denmark

                  #23
                  Can we conclude that some people like Tamiya others dont for brush painting.

                  I have never closed a thread due to it becoming a contest to have the final word. I have no with to do so.

                  I think that the original question has had reasonable comment. Some helpful, some not directly helpful but a valid point of view.

                  Can we either get this thread on track again or let it lie.

                  Ian M
                  Group builds

                  Bismarck

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                  • Guest

                    #24
                    Originally posted by \
                    Can we conclude that some people like Tamiya others dont for brush painting.I have never closed a thread due to it becoming a contest to have the final word. I have no with to do so.

                    I think that the original question has had reasonable comment. Some helpful, some not directly helpful but a valid point of view.

                    Can we either get this thread on track again or let it lie.

                    Ian M
                    Let me start off here with an apology. I had no intention, and still don't, of stirring emotions or suggesting even vaguely that anyone's favorite paint be replaced with Tamiya with my posts. My point, perhaps unartfully expressed, was that Tamiya acrylics can be brushed to a nice finish. That is all.

                    I'm not trying to convert anyone to brushing Tamiya acrylic paints. I'm not an advocate of any brand of paint. Each have their own characteristics and each may be more appropriate in some circumstances than in others.

                    yak face - Looking at your attached photos, it looks to me that the paint was curing as you painted. The cure time needs to be slowed considerably. This way you will not get paint rolling up on your brush as you stroke. Your comment on small areas was very valid. My posting of the STUG was meant as an example of a larger area brushed. My text was not measured. In fact, it was needlessly antagonistic. Please accept my apologies.

                    andygh - No hackles raised here. I took your comment as being wry. I was amused. I was trying to reply in kind, hence the smiley. Sorry, my amusement didn't come off in response.

                    I think I'll leave my comments as they are here. I am sorry for the ruckus I've kicked up.

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                    • yak face
                      Moderator
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 13841
                      • Tony
                      • Sheffield

                      #25
                      No need to apologise j (youll have to let us know your name!), im sure no one has taken any comments as anything other than a discussion ,i certainly havent. Youre right about the paint looking like its curing as its being brushed , on the hunter it was the final matt coat that caused this effect ,and this was a revell paint!! cheers tony

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        It’s often difficult to express ourselves with a keyboard & things end up get misunderstood, no offence intended or taken eace:

                        Nice looking models by the way :score:

                        Anyhow, I hope Gobby58 got something useful out of this thread :thumbsup:

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                        • Guest

                          #27
                          Originally posted by \
                          Anyhow, I hope Gobby58 got something useful out of this thread :thumbsup:
                          I certainly did. Your tip for softening the edges of camo patches by using thinner on the base coat is great. I will give this one a try in the future.

                          Thanks,

                          Tony

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            oooh I missed this thread! What a palaver! Whilst I'd agree in general that Tamiya acrylics are not brush-friendly, I have recently been experimenting with Mr Color lacquer thinner which also contains a retarder. The results on bare plastic are much the same, but on a primed surface they go on very well with a nice smooth finish.

                            Cheers

                            Patrick

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Interesting thread of sorts .... some good points, personal methods and a few nice tips in there.

                              I'm a bit obsessed with Citadel acrylics myself, very rarely use rattle cans (cheapo black, grey and white) and only use an air brush for getting a background wash on larger areas (hence i have a 12.99 humbrol disposable jobbie)

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