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  • outrunner
    • Apr 2019
    • 2420

    #1

    What am I doing wrong?

    I got some one shot black primer last week and today I started to prime the Flak gun. All went well for about a minute then it started to splutter a bit and stopped spraying altogether. I thought it was just tip drying so gave the tip a wipe and it seemed OK but only for a few seconds. Having decided that enough was enough I started to clean the airbrush only to find the paint had become a gooey mess inside and it took me ages to clean it, and I mean ages as some of it was so sticky I dug it out with a toothpick. So later on I thought that perhaps the .3mm needle was too small so I got out my other airbrush with a .5mm needle fitted and tried again having thinned the paint slightly with a little water but the result was the same. So, is it me, is it the paint or should I just take up knitting instead? Answers on a fully built and painted model to Useless Eustace, Scotland.
  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #2
    What primer was it?

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    • JR
      • May 2015
      • 18273

      #3
      Andy.
      No doubt you are using as you have any other Acrylic primer. It does sound strange though has to be the paint.

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      • PaulTRose
        SMF Supporters
        • Jun 2013
        • 6459
        • Paul
        • Tattooine

        #4
        if its the MIG One Shot primer, i couldnt get on with it either......went in the bin
        Per Ardua

        We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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        • stona
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2008
          • 9889

          #5
          Which paint and what did you thin it with?
          It sounds like some kind of reaction has produced the gooey mess and I can think of at least a couple of combinations that can do that. I discovered them the hard way!

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          • Bortig the Viking
            SMF Supporters
            • Mar 2019
            • 780

            #6
            Hope you sort it, I'm of no help as I find the airbrush a magical art that I never gave got on with, hence why I do wood and paint brush.

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            • Jim R
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 15677
              • Jim
              • Shropshire

              #7
              Hi Andy
              Gotta be one of three problems. A 'bad' batch of primer, a not compatible thinner or some residue from a previous use of the airbrush.
              Very strange though and very frustrating.
              Jim

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              • The Smythe Meister
                • Jan 2019
                • 6248

                #8
                Hmmmmm,
                A very frequent problem......with a myriad of possible solutions,question is........
                ...... how many will you try,in which configurations,and for how long?!
                This just sums up the reasons why i try and use my A/B as little as possible or even if at all, on builds where i can get away without it!
                Obviously i wish you all the best in sorting out your problem though Andy:thumb2:,
                Andy

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                • Mr Bowcat
                  SMF OG
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 4600
                  • Bob
                  • London

                  #9
                  What do you clean your airbrush with. Maybe thinner/IPA/cellulose residue reacted with the paint?
                  Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                  • outrunner
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 2420

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AlanG
                    What primer was it?
                    Mig One shot black primer.
                    Originally posted by John Race
                    Andy.
                    No doubt you are using as you have any other Acrylic primer. It does sound strange though has to be the paint.
                    Indeed John, it does seem strange as I use nothing but Acrylics.
                    Originally posted by beowulf
                    if its the MIG One Shot primer, i couldnt get on with it either......went in the bin
                    Did you have the same problem with it?
                    Originally posted by stona
                    Which paint and what did you thin it with?
                    It sounds like some kind of reaction has produced the gooey mess and I can think of at least a couple of combinations that can do that. I discovered them the hard way!
                    As mentioned above, it's the Mig One Shot primer and the first attempt was straight from the bottle as it says there is no need to thin. Second time I thinned it with a little water and it was just the same.
                    Originally posted by Jim R
                    Hi Andy
                    Gotta be one of three problems. A 'bad' batch of primer, a not compatible thinner or some residue from a previous use of the airbrush.
                    Very strange though and very frustrating.
                    Jim
                    I am leaning to a bad batch.
                    Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
                    What do you clean your airbrush with. Maybe thinner/IPA/cellulose residue reacted with the paint?
                    I clean my airbrushes with water and IPA but the second attempt was with an airbrush that had been cleaned and left in it's box for over a month so I reckon any IPA would be well evaporated away.


                    Andy.

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                    • PaulTRose
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 6459
                      • Paul
                      • Tattooine

                      #11
                      Originally posted by outrunner


                      Did you have the same problem with it?
                      im trying to remember, it was about 2 years ago.......just remember it wasnt very good spraying, and wasnt very good once it was on!
                      Per Ardua

                      We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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                      • Steven000
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 2826
                        • Steven
                        • Belgium

                        #12
                        Sounds pretty bad Andy, I ordered some Mig One shot primers to see if they are better than the Vallejo primer I'm using now, but haven't yet got the time to test them out...

                        I asume it's a bad batch though, as so many seem to like them?

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Just had the same problem with Vallejo Metallic Gloss Primer. Sprayed OK for a bit. Refilled cup a splater dash. Changed brushes the same.

                          Chucked in bin new arrived to day no problem.

                          Speculating I wonder if I have in using the old lot & not given it a good shake every time I have used it. It has thickened at the bottom.

                          Now put a couple of ball bearings in the new pot & get her in doors to shake it.

                          Laurie

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                          • outrunner
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 2420

                            #14
                            Mabye it is a bad batch as I shook the bottle for a long time and did as it said in the instruction label to no avail, time for the bin I think and go back to my old faithful Tamiya.

                            Andy.

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                            • Gern
                              SMF Supporters
                              • May 2009
                              • 9212

                              #15
                              Only asking Andy, but have you tried Stynylrez? My first attempts with it were not satisfactory as I had problems cleaning my A/B after use. I switched to using IPA as a cleaner and now no problems. Don't use IPA to wipe away dust etc from your kit though. It will fetch off the primer!

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