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  • Tim Marlow
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    • Apr 2018
    • 18892
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #16
    How hot is warm Andrew? Did a lot of cleaning development work in my professional days and found anything over about 70 degC counterproductive as it speeds drying and bakes things on. At this temperature and above cleaning was like trying to redissolve boiled eggs......
    About 60 degC was the optimum we found.

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    • BattleshipBob
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      • Apr 2018
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      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #17
      Thats interesting Andrew, thanks

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      • adt70hk
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        • Sep 2019
        • 10402

        #18
        Originally posted by Bobthestug
        Thats interesting Andrew, thanks
        Bob

        Are you happy for me to post the video I found on this thread. Don't want to hijack it?

        Andrew

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        • adt70hk
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          • Sep 2019
          • 10402

          #19
          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
          How hot is warm Andrew? Did a lot of cleaning development work in my professional days and found anything over about 70 degC counterproductive as it speeds drying and bakes things on. At this temperature and above cleaning was like trying to redissolve boiled eggs......
          About 60 degC was the optimum we found.
          Hi Tim

          He doesn't say in the clip but my boiler hot water temperature is set at 50 degrees C. Which is on the warm side for washing hands.

          I knew from my early days of DIY experience that using hot water to clean brushes could actually cause the emulsion paint to set on the brush as you say and so I deliberately don't use it as hot as it can be out of the tap for that very reason. At a guess 30-40ish degrees C....

          Hope that helps.

          Andrew

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          • Tim Marlow
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            • Apr 2018
            • 18892
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #20
            Hi Andrew. No probs, I just thought I’d better point it out because it can seem intuitive that if warm is good then hotter is better, and it isn’t!

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            • Guest

              #21
              Whan I get paint on my hand holding bits when airbrushing (use plastic gloves normally but 82 ia forget year) I use water at hand temp. & the paint just disolves. Tamiya mostly.

              Don't you just love all these ideas. This morning (sorry digressing) chap has invented a fridge for vaccines which keeps the temerature at the optimum.

              Think it was 10 days with out electricity. Superb idea for Afrika & such like. Uses frozen ice & water which forms a cycle keeping the temperature. Now markete with the help of Bill Gates with many hundreds produced so far. British ingenuity USA lolly. Now experimenting with domestic fridges the same technologhy.

              Laurie

              Unbelievable ice is frozen.

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              • BattleshipBob
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                • Apr 2018
                • 6792
                • Bob
                • Cardiff

                #22
                Hi jack away sir

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                • adt70hk
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                  • Sep 2019
                  • 10402

                  #23
                  Ok Bob....hijack in progress.......

                  Using warm water to clear an AB......at least where water based paints are concerned e.g. Vallejo and the like.

                  Earlier this year I stumbled across a YouTube channel of one of our American cousins, who goes by the moniker of "Barbatos Rex".

                  He's not into armour, more like gundam, cars etc. and I've never yet seen anything he's built, so don't know actually how 'good' he is. I'm also not sure I agree with everything he says either - and even disagree with a few things. Plus there are some products he's not come across before and it's clear he's not sure how to use them.

                  All his posts are demos of paints, technique, processes etc. and he does a lot of testing different paints, tools etc. - so every once in a while you come across something of use. As an example, he's recently done an hour long special testing 20 different brands of sprue cutters.....:surprised:

                  In early January he did a short vid (below) on his 'secret' for cleaning Vallejo paints very easily, which piqued my interest and so I watched it. :thinking:

                  Previously I'd always cleaned my AB using cold water - nobody had told me any different. His big 'secret' was to use warm water - that's it! Warm water and nothing more fancy than that.....:surprised:

                  As I said in an earlier reply to Tim, he doesn't say how hot the water is in the clip but my boiler hot water temperature is set at 55 degrees C, which is on the warmish side for washing hands.

                  I knew from my early days of DIY experience that using hot water to clean brushes could actually cause the emulsion paint to set on the brush. Therefore, I deliberately don't use it as hot as it can be out of the tap for that very reason. At a guess 40ish degrees C....

                  Using warm water sounds blindingly obvious, so I gave it a go and my word what difference!! If you're not doing it already, give it a go. It really has revolutionised my AB cleaning experience and made it sooooo much easier, quicker and above all more thorough....

                  Anyway, apologies again if I'm telling you nothing new but thought it might help.

                  All the best and here endeth the hijack of Bob's thread.

                  Andrew


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                  • BattleshipBob
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 6792
                    • Bob
                    • Cardiff

                    #24
                    And a good lesson is was !!

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                    • Jim R
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                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15669
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #25
                      Originally posted by adt70hk
                      Previously I'd always cleaned my AB using cold water - nobody had told me any different.
                      Me too - but now you've got me thinking. This thread has gone off topic a bit but it's interesting :thumb2:

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        Tried it with Tamiya. Got to do it immediatley as otherwise the paint just hugs the metal cup. How do I know that :disappointed:

                        Laurie

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                        • BattleshipBob
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                          • Apr 2018
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                          • Bob
                          • Cardiff

                          #27
                          Getting old or older

                          Totally forgot one major question

                          Can you use laquer on top of Stynrez ???

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bobthestug
                            Getting old or older

                            Totally forgot one major question

                            Can you use laquer on top of Stynrez ???
                            Getting older tell me about it Bob. But you are only 60 wow you are still a youth.

                            No idea but if you email https://barwellbodyworks-shop.com/gb...ynylrez-primer

                            They should know as they are the UK agents.

                            Laurie

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bobthestug
                              Can you use laquer on top of Stynrez ???
                              Yes you can Bob.

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