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  • BattleshipBob
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    • Apr 2018
    • 6792
    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #1

    When to paint on boards tools etc

    Afternoon all

    Never been really too sure when to paint the tools, exhaust etc on a Tank, ok hands up a StuG

    Do you paint them same time as the top coat, modulation and before varnish is applied

    or do you paint them after varnishing and filters, washes etc??

    thanks bob
  • Tim Marlow
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    • Apr 2018
    • 18895
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #2
    In my case, before varnish and pin washes. I find the pin wash sharpens the edges and makes them pop a bit. Weathering is last in my case, and has to be over tools etc as well....

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    • BattleshipBob
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      • Apr 2018
      • 6792
      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #3
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      In my case, before varnish and pin washes. I find the pin wash sharpens the edges and makes them pop a bit. Weathering is last in my case, and has to be over tools etc as well....
      Thanks Tim

      That was my way of thinking, but thinking gives me a headache lol

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      • Guest

        #4
        If they’re in the same colour as the vehicle, I paint them before shading and highlighting. Otherwise, I paint them after that, but generally when they’re already stuck to the vehicle (which I normally do before painting). Weathering always comes after that, because like Tim says, it should go “over” the tools, normally anyway.

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        • Steve Jones
          • Apr 2018
          • 6615

          #5
          As Tim says but dont forget to use your oils to enhance the look during the weathering process. Here are some basic oils you may want to try. Give the wooden handles a light oil wash of Van Dyke Brown or similar dark brown in your oils and a little bit of shading by the clamps and metal heads ie axe, shovel etc with Raw Umber (Dirt in a tube). A bit of dust on the metallic parts like shovels and axes using Buff or Dust from Abteilung 502 or a similar colour in your collection. Once all the oil work is done give the metal edges and clamp edges a brush with Dark Steel pigments to make them pop a little. Tools are great fun to paint on the model but can be very awkward so always use Post It labels or Tamiya tape to mask off the main body in case of accidents. As for exhausts there are several ways of doing it. Try and use acrylic rust washes to build up layers of colour including the black soot deposits. Once dry add a final wash of Smoke to blend it all together. When doing the oils add a wash of Burnt Sienna oil (Rust in a tube) to finish the exhausts off. Experiment and have fun. Fine detail painting is one of the areas of modelling I really enjoy. Happy modelling mate.

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          • Tim Marlow
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            • Apr 2018
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            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #6
            HB pencil is also great for highlighting metal edges, wear on tracks etc.....

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            • Steve Jones
              • Apr 2018
              • 6615

              #7
              2B or not 2B that is the question

              Taxi for Jones!:smiling3:

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              • Tim Marlow
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                • Apr 2018
                • 18895
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #8
                ....and to think I conciously avoided that pun......slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or what!

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                • BattleshipBob
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                  • Apr 2018
                  • 6792
                  • Bob
                  • Cardiff

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jakko
                  If they’re in the same colour as the vehicle, I paint them before shading and highlighting. Otherwise, I paint them after that, but generally when they’re already stuck to the vehicle (which I normally do before painting). Weathering always comes after that, because like Tim says, it should go “over” the tools, normally anyway.
                  Many thanks Jakko!
                  Originally posted by Steve Jones
                  As Tim says but dont forget to use your oils to enhance the look during the weathering process. Here are some basic oils you may want to try. Give the wooden handles a light oil wash of Van Dyke Brown or similar dark brown in your oils and a little bit of shading by the clamps and metal heads ie axe, shovel etc with Raw Umber (Dirt in a tube). A bit of dust on the metallic parts like shovels and axes using Buff or Dust from Abteilung 502 or a similar colour in your collection. Once all the oil work is done give the metal edges and clamp edges a brush with Dark Steel pigments to make them pop a little. Tools are great fun to paint on the model but can be very awkward so always use Post It labels or Tamiya tape to mask off the main body in case of accidents. As for exhausts there are several ways of doing it. Try and use acrylic rust washes to build up layers of colour including the black soot deposits. Once dry add a final wash of Smoke to blend it all together. When doing the oils add a wash of Burnt Sienna oil (Rust in a tube) to finish the exhausts off. Experiment and have fun. Fine detail painting is one of the areas of modelling I really enjoy. Happy modelling mate.
                  Thanks yet again Steve, have some oils, will have a look
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  HB pencil is also great for highlighting metal edges, wear on tracks etc.....
                  Thanks Tim
                  Originally posted by Steve Jones
                  2B or not 2B that is the question

                  Taxi for Jones!:smiling3:
                  Coat for Jones, thats Coat for Jones

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Depends on circumnstaces Bob & & how you want them to look. You do not want an exaust speckled with a wash. Needs it's own paint film & effects. Just how it grabs you.

                    Small bit, knock off bits, are my last port of call. Bringing out detail also the last. You can apply effects to these pieces , for me, much better as singular items.

                    No rules or discipline just how it suits the model maker.

                    Evening all

                    Laurie

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