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  • BattleshipBob
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 6802
    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #1

    Need a face mask

    Afternoon

    I need a new paint spraying mask, my cheapy one is not upto spraying lacquer, have started to smell the paint.

    Any recommendations?? Have been looking at a 3m 6002 series

    Thanks bob
  • slupanter
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    • Jun 2010
    • 554

    #2
    I am a Lacquer painter too. Curious in what people recommend, I have a Force 8 Half Mask Twin Respirator FM-F8-A1P2 with pair of A1P2 filters and I still get gassed.

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    • BattleshipBob
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      • Apr 2018
      • 6802
      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #3
      Me too !

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      • adt70hk
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        • Sep 2019
        • 10411

        #4
        Hi Bob

        I can't recommend one myself but Andy aka ThePaintGuy, before he left did make some of his own recommendations on this thread here. Given that it was his day job I have no doubt what he says is solid.

        HTH.

        Andrew

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        • BattleshipBob
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          • Apr 2018
          • 6802
          • Bob
          • Cardiff

          #5
          Originally posted by adt70hk
          Hi Bob

          I can't recommend one myself but Andy aka ThePaintGuy, before he left did make some of his own recommendations on this thread here. Given that it was his day job I have no doubt what he says is solid.

          HTH.

          Andrew

          Many thanks Andrew

          Bob

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          • Tim Marlow
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 18908
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #6
            Just make sure whatever you get has A1 organic vapour and P2 particulate protection as a minimum and you’ll be fine Bob. Andy’s recommendations all meet that spec. I’ve got the 3M one and I can spray lacquer for a couple of hours and still smell nothing....mind you, my sense of smell is not as acute as it was before I had Covid :tongue-out3:

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            • Tim Marlow
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              • Apr 2018
              • 18908
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #7
              Hi Alexander. Those spec of cartridges should be fine. Does the mask fit properly (is this seal leak rather than filter breakthrough) or do you have facial hair? Just asking because face masks are designed to fit properly on clean shaven people only....filters don't last forever either. How old are yours?

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              • BattleshipBob
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 6802
                • Bob
                • Cardiff

                #8
                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                Just make sure whatever you get has A1 organic vapour and P2 particulate protection as a minimum and you’ll be fine Bob. Andy’s recommendations all meet that spec. I’ve got the 3M one and I can spray lacquer for a couple of hours and still smell nothing....mind you, my sense of smell is not as acute as it was before I had Covid :tongue-out3:
                Excellent, thanks Tim!

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                • slupanter
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 554

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  Hi Alexander. Those spec of cartridges should be fine. Does the mask fit properly (is this seal leak rather than filter breakthrough) or do you have facial hair? Just asking because face masks are designed to fit properly on clean shaven people only....filters don't last forever either. How old are yours?
                  Hey Tim,
                  Maybe 1/2 yrs. I have “designer” stubble . I thought it It could be fit; I will test and report back.
                  What are the guidelines in replacing filters?

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                  • Tim Marlow
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18908
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #10
                    Depends upon the specifications Alexander. The filter will be rated for a number of hours use. Six months shouldn’t be an issue with general hobby use though. A rough way to test fit is to put your palms over the filter inlets and see if you can pull a vacuum when you breathe in,...

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                    • adt70hk
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 10411

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                      Depends upon the specifications Alexander. The filter will be rated for a number of hours use. Six months shouldn’t be an issue with general hobby use though. A rough way to test fit is to put your palms over the filter inlets and see if you can pull a vacuum when you breathe in,...
                      Thanks Tim.

                      Often wondered how to do that. Although I probably only get the airbrush out once a month at the most and use a spray booth that vents outside, I really need to get a better mask but have been put off by all the different sorts of filters and how long you can keep using them for - very confusing.....

                      The first one in Andy's list comes in at a reasonable £25 and a pack of 10 filters is only £11, which will last me a long time.

                      Thanks again.

                      Andrew

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                      • Tim Marlow
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18908
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #12
                        Any mask filter used for painting should be rated A1 to remove solvents and at least P2 to remove particulates Andrew. Anything lower (A2/3 or P3) than that is not going to give you the protection you need. The 3M one on Andy’s list is A1P1 rated, for example. If filters are coming in at a pound each they are probably use once and throw away! For hobby use I would think annual filter changes will be more than enough. The rule of thumb is that if you can smell it or taste it, and your mask is fitting properly, change the filter!

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                        • Tim Marlow
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18908
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #13
                          This may help...

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                          • adt70hk
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 10411

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                            Any mask filter used for painting should be rated A1 to remove solvents and at least P2 to remove particulates Andrew. Anything lower (A2/3 or P3) than that is not going to give you the protection you need. The 3M one on Andy’s list is A1P1 rated, for example. If filters are coming in at a pound each they are probably use once and throw away! For hobby use I would think annual filter changes will be more than enough. The rule of thumb is that if you can smell it or taste it, and your mask is fitting properly, change the filter!
                            Thanks Tim for this and the link. Well have a proper look when I get the time..... Not easy with a school age children.....

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                            • BattleshipBob
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 6802
                              • Bob
                              • Cardiff

                              #15
                              Thanks for the advice Tim, just ordered a Moldex 7000 ( with power steering ) plus the filters you advised, twin pac.

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