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  • JR
    • May 2015
    • 18273

    #91
    Originally posted by spanner570
    Both Barry and Murfie's posts sums up this very interesting discussion.

    When it comes down to it, It doesn't matter if the paint is applied with an A.B., paint brush, bricklayer's trowel or yard brush, as long as the builder is happy with the result, that is all that matters.
    570 you'd love the flame you get when lighting the steam of enamel thinners ! works a treat.

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    • outrunner
      • Apr 2019
      • 2420

      #92
      Originally posted by John Race
      570 you'd love the flame you get when lighting the steam of enamel thinners ! works a treat.
      Well John, if anyone would know about flames it would be you. :smiling5:


      Andy.

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      • spanner570
        SMF Supporters
        • May 2009
        • 15391

        #93
        Originally posted by John Race
        570 you'd love the flame you get when lighting the steam of enamel thinners ! works a treat.
        Tried that once when I ran out of 'Wacky Backy'. Made my eyes water!

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        • The Smythe Meister
          • Jan 2019
          • 6248

          #94
          Originally posted by spanner570
          Both Barry and Murfie's posts sums up this very interesting discussion.

          When it comes down to it, It doesn't matter if the paint is applied with an A.B., paint brush, bricklayer's trowel or yard brush, as long as the builder is happy with the result, that is all that matters.
          What about us Sparkies!!:dizzy:

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          • Tim Marlow
            SMF Supporters
            • Apr 2018
            • 18901
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #95
            Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
            What about us Sparkies!!:dizzy:
            Well you can put the paint on with the fag end of a role of 2.5 T & E……

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            • JR
              • May 2015
              • 18273

              #96
              Joking apart it's all about achieving the finish you consider in your mind.Ok that sounds a bit odd, but it is just that.
              I never considered brush painting ( sorry 570 ) when I returned to modelling back in 2015, having read numerous articles, it seemed the way to go.
              What I do find though is the very misleading advertising that the manufacturers employ. Sprays straight from the bottle! Yeah well not in my case, then you start to read about all the trials and tribulations people have with tip drying, the strange concoctions that are used from bats blood to spring water purifed at boiling point while half way up a mountain .
              The list goes on, as is to be seem in the many threads we read.
              At the end of the day perfection is in the eye of the beholder.

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              • Tim Marlow
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 18901
                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #97
                Been modelling A long time…..never made anything perfect yet though! I always see room for improvement in everything I do. It’s what drives me to make the next tank/plane/car/figure or what have you. I think if I could produce perfection I’d get really bored really quickly.

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                • JR
                  • May 2015
                  • 18273

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                  Been modelling A long time…..never made anything perfect yet though! I always see room for improvement in everything I do. It’s what drives me to make the next tank/plane/car/figure or what have you. I think if I could produce perfection I’d get really bored really quickly.
                  It's that that drives us on isn't, the realisation that we could improve. Every time you look at a completed build you can see things that you could do better.The problem is that will never happen !

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                  • BarryW
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 6010

                    #99
                    Originally posted by John Race
                    Joking apart it's all about achieving the finish you consider in your mind.Ok that sounds a bit odd, but it is just that.
                    I never considered brush painting ( sorry 570 ) when I returned to modelling back in 2015, having read numerous articles, it seemed the way to go.
                    What I do find though is the very misleading advertising that the manufacturers employ. Sprays straight from the bottle! Yeah well not in my case, then you start to read about all the trials and tribulations people have with tip drying, the strange concoctions that are used from bats blood to spring water purifed at boiling point while half way up a mountain .
                    The list goes on, as is to be seem in the many threads we read.
                    At the end of the day perfection is in the eye of the beholder.
                    Absolutely correct John. But clearly you have not tried MRP because they actually do what they say they will do. I have never once thinned them even doing mottle, never had tip dry either.

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                    • Tim Marlow
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 18901
                      • Tim
                      • Somerset UK

                      #100
                      Never had tip dry issues with Tamiya/Mr Color and MLT either…they do have associated PPE issues though. Does MRP have specific PPE requirements?

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                      • JR
                        • May 2015
                        • 18273

                        #101
                        Originally posted by BarryW
                        Absolutely correct John. But clearly you have not tried MRP because they actually do what they say they will do. I have never once thinned them even doing mottle, never had tip dry either.
                        Morning Barry.
                        The first thing I would have to ask does it smell and what type of paint is it ?
                        These days I try to stay away from any strong fumes, having at time refinished and made various items of furniture, although wearing a mask and having a proper spray room .

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                        • BarryW
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 6010

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                          Never had tip dry issues with Tamiya/Mr Color and MLT either…they do have associated PPE issues though. Does MRP have specific PPE requirements?
                          MRP is a lacquer paint similar to Mr Color, but it does not need thinning.

                          The point is it really does not need to be thinned, ever.

                          As for PPE, to be honest I am rather too relaxed over it. I have an extraction booth but because a face mask mists my glasses I rarely wear a mask.

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18901
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #103
                            It’s your lungs Barry, but I would read up on the MSDS before exposing them like that. If your glasses are steaming up your mask doesn’t fit properly, or is not fit for purpose. I would strongly suggest you source a better quality mask before you do your lungs and organs irreparable damage.

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                            • Guest

                              #104
                              Originally posted by BarryW
                              As for PPE, to be honest I am rather too relaxed over it. I have an extraction booth but because a face mask mists my glasses I rarely wear a mask.
                              Barry, for what it's worth, I wear specs myself and use a 3M 6051 respirator which is inexpensive as are the filters. No fogging and very comfortable with the specs.

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                              • Airborne01
                                • Mar 2021
                                • 3968
                                • Steve
                                • Essex

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                                Been modelling A long time…..never made anything perfect yet though! I always see room for improvement in everything I do. It’s what drives me to make the next tank/plane/car/figure or what have you. I think if I could produce perfection I’d get really bored really quickly.
                                Tim,
                                As I recall, in Japanese culture the imperfection is part of the perfection - hence high quality porcelain would have a flaw deliberately incorporated! That actually forms a rationale for my failed efforts!
                                Steve

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