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  • The Smythe Meister
    • Jan 2019
    • 6248

    #106
    Originally posted by Airborne01
    Tim,
    As I recall, in Japanese culture the imperfection is part of the perfection - hence high quality porcelain would have a flaw deliberately incorporated! That actually forms a rationale for my failed efforts!
    Steve
    Blimey Steve.......
    .....by that train of thinking....... i`m an absolute GENIOUS !!

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    • BarryW
      SMF Supporters
      • Jul 2011
      • 6010

      #107
      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      It’s your lungs Barry, but I would read up on the MSDS before exposing them like that. If your glasses are steaming up your mask doesn’t fit properly, or is not fit for purpose. I would strongly suggest you source a better quality mask before you do your lungs and organs irreparable damage.
      I have had at least half-dozen different types of mask and I have not had one fit well.

      Don't get me wrong, I know there is a problem and that is why I spent more than most on an expensive high quality venting spray booth with a good 'draw'.

      I also will still, most of the time, wear a mask while spraying primer or if spraying for more than a few minutes, even though it is very frustrating trying to cope with it. Most of my spray sessions are over within 5 minutes.

      I have tried a lot of different ways to sort the issue, so far without much significant success. I am still searching!

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      • Tim Marlow
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 18901
        • Tim
        • Somerset UK

        #108
        I would seek out a professional supplier then Barry. You need to carry out what is called a “face fit” test. That will tell you exactly what size mask you need. Just buying off the shelf, if you don’t know what size you need, is a bit of a guessing game otherwise.

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        • Tim Marlow
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 18901
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #109
          Originally posted by Murfie
          Barry, for what it's worth, I wear specs myself and use a 3M 6051 respirator which is inexpensive as are the filters. No fogging and very comfortable with the specs.
          That’s my weapon of choice as well. Excellent bit of kit.

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          • BarryW
            SMF Supporters
            • Jul 2011
            • 6010

            #110
            Originally posted by Tim Marlow
            I would seek out a professional supplier then Barry. You need to carry out what is called a “face fit” test. That will tell you exactly what size mask you need. Just buying off the shelf, if you don’t know what size you need, is a bit of a guessing game otherwise.
            There is a thought. I had no idea that there are such specialists around! A good tip, thank you. I will make enquiries.

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            • Tim Marlow
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 18901
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #111
              Originally posted by BarryW
              There is a thought. I had no idea that there are such specialists around! A good tip, thank you. I will make enquiries.
              Sometimes called a fit test, or a face fit test…google it and see what comes up….
              The other thing is that you need to be clean shaven, but your avatar suggests you are already :thumb2:

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              • Airborne01
                • Mar 2021
                • 3968
                • Steve
                • Essex

                #112
                Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                Blimey Steve.......
                .....by that train of thinking....... i`m an absolute GENIOUS !!
                Just join the queue mate!

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                • Guest

                  #113
                  Part of the editorial comment in the September 21 edition of Scale Aircraft Modelling magazine has some relevance to this thread ...

                  "There is no 'right' way to build a model, and our content is edited to reflect this, and to offer options and alternatives rather than presenting the work of a master builder and saying 'this what you should do ...'

                  I have no affiliation to this magazine and the intention is not to promote it, however, I thought the sentiments expressed were worthy of a highlight.

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                  • rtfoe
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 9081

                    #114
                    I have no issues with any medium of application as long as it serves the specific kind of finish I want. It can even be from a cutip or sponge. Nobody's done a mini sized roller...that would be something to try.

                    Cheers,
                    Richard

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                    • Tim Marlow
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 18901
                      • Tim
                      • Somerset UK

                      #115
                      Originally posted by rtfoe
                      I have no issues with any medium of application as long as it serves the specific kind of finish I want. It can even be from a cutip or sponge. Nobody's done a mini sized roller...that would be something to try.

                      Cheers,
                      Richard
                      Cutips (cotton buds to the anglos) are hollow, you could easily make your own Richard…. :tongue-out3:

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                      • dalej2014
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Aug 2021
                        • 507

                        #116
                        So. 16 months later I've finally bought a cheap airbrush! Not one to rush, obviously.
                        Going well so far. That is paint is spraying, and cleaning is ok. I've got a respirator, and am just doing short "bursts" (pardon the pun!).
                        Will post results once I have some; so far just touched up the Toon Tiger.

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                        • adt70hk
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 10409

                          #117
                          Originally posted by dalej2014
                          So. 16 months later I've finally bought a cheap airbrush! Not one to rush, obviously.
                          Going well so far. That is paint is spraying, and cleaning is ok. I've got a respirator, and am just doing short "bursts" (pardon the pun!).
                          Will post results once I have some; so far just touched up the Toon Tiger.
                          Dale

                          Welcome to the club.

                          I got my first airbrush probably about 4 1/2 years ago. I had two come with the compressor I got, cheap Chinese ones. One was a bottom feed and no good, the other was a side feed and worked ok once I got to grips with it. Whilst I probably could have saved myself a bit of pain in terms of the quality, what it did do was to give me a plenty of practice in how to use an airbrush and especially strip one down in the event of problems..... without running the risk of wrecking a decent one.

                          That said my most expensive one only cost me £100, which has a 0.2mm needle and I use for when I want a decent finish my other one was only about £60 and has a large cup with a 0.4 mm needle and so is perfect for things like priming and varnishing.

                          Looking forward to seeing it in use.

                          ATB.

                          Andrew

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                          • dalej2014
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Aug 2021
                            • 507

                            #118
                            Thanks Andrew. I'm already looking at H&S and Iwata models, the former my preferred route for intechangability and ease of cleaning. Some of the prices are eye-watering, but I expect it to be an investment to last a lifetime. I've been quite pleased with my cheap airbrush so far.

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                            • adt70hk
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 10409

                              #119
                              Originally posted by dalej2014
                              Some of the prices are eye-watering.....
                              Aren't they just!!

                              My 'expensive' one was a personal recommendation from someone I used to know on another forum. He had tried about 30!!! Everything from super cheap to ridiculously expensive.....and this was the best he'd ever used. Mine is officially a Tamiya Superfine but the key components i.e. nozzle and needle are Iwata.

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                              • The Smythe Meister
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 6248

                                #120
                                Originally posted by rtfoe
                                I have no issues with any medium of application as long as it serves the specific kind of finish I want. It can even be from a cutip or sponge. Nobody's done a mini sized roller...that would be something to try.

                                Cheers,
                                Richard
                                I'm in your camp here Richard
                                In fact I don't actually enjoy usually an airbrush and only do so if totally necessary,(all the faffing about with the thing does my head in!!).
                                I prefer to use rattle cans on most areas,and hand painting where I can get away with it.... there, I've said it..
                                ....... Let the abuse commence!

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