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  • BattleshipBob
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 6792
    • Bob
    • Cardiff

    #1

    Primer for enamels?

    Yes a question!!

    Going to use enamels for brush painting, first time

    Do you need a primer??
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    #2
    Not necessarily I’ve painted tons of models with enamels without ever having heard of primer.

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    • BattleshipBob
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      • Apr 2018
      • 6792
      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #3
      Originally posted by Jakko
      Not necessarily :smiling3: I’ve painted tons of models with enamels without ever having heard of primer.
      Appreciated Jakko, will practice first with thinning ratios

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      • adt70hk
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        • Sep 2019
        • 10409

        #4
        Same as Jakko.... At least in my youf...... Never once had the paint come off and of never heard of the primer either.....

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        • Tim Marlow
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 18901
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #5
          Personally I prime everything. It shows up flaws and bad joints so you can sort them out before the top coat goes on. It’s not essential, but it’s useful.

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          • Jim R
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            • Apr 2018
            • 15686
            • Jim
            • Shropshire

            #6
            Stynylrez primer every time. As Tim says it shows up any flaws which may need work before the top coat. Also if you have filler, pe, resin etc it unifies the surface.
            Jim

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            • Guest

              #7
              Originally posted by adt70hk
              Same as Jakko.... At least in my youf......
              That’s what I was reminiscing about too Humbrol straight from the tin to the model.

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              • BattleshipBob
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 6792
                • Bob
                • Cardiff

                #8
                Do you need a dedicated primer ??

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                • Gary MacKenzie
                  SMF Supporter
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1057
                  • Gary
                  • Forres , Moray , Scotland

                  #9
                  I have used Tamiya Enamel Primer ( Grey ) HERE , but i personally find it ( not John ) expensive for 100ml, and prefer to just use acrylics for all I paint now.

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                  • langy71
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                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1948
                    • Chris
                    • Nottingham

                    #10
                    If it helps any, my go to primer is usually Halfords plastic primer or tamiya's own primer

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                    • adt70hk
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 10409

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jakko
                      That’s what I was reminiscing about too :smiling3: Humbrol straight from the tin to the model.
                      Indeed..... And even more I still have nightmares about how badly I did..... My Sherman in particular..:fearful::fearful::unamused::unamused:

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                      • Valeron
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                        • Jan 2022
                        • 931
                        • Mike
                        • St Albans

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jakko
                        That’s what I was reminiscing about too Humbrol straight from the tin to the model.
                        During lockdown I made my first model since the late 1970s and that's exactly what I did. I didn't realise there was now an alternative

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                        • BarryW
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                          • Jul 2011
                          • 6010

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bobthestug
                          Yes a question!!

                          Going to use enamels for brush painting, first time

                          Do you need a primer??
                          Not for paint adhesion but what about seams and build flaws?

                          If you don’t use water based acrylics the main reason for primer is to highlight build flaws, then it might be to create a uniform canvas and, finally perhaps for preshading.

                          Identifying and dealing with seams and build flaws being the most important reason overall.

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18901
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #14
                            You don’t need a dedicated primer Bob. Any primer will do it’s job as long as it’s properly dry before you add the top coat.

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                            • JR
                              • May 2015
                              • 18273

                              #15
                              In the true sense a primer is self explanatory it gives a surface for subsequent coats of paint something to adhere to.
                              Any one who has painted say a door frame or the like with out a primer will fail to get a decent finish to the final coat .MDF is a perfect example, any edge needs to be completely sealed other wise it will continue to absorb the finish .
                              Why do some people not use it I'll never know. Maybe if you don't handle the item fair enought.
                              Why spend hrs doing subsequent coats of paint, washes , varnishes and not use a primer ?

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