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  • malvern_man
    SMF Supporters
    • Sep 2023
    • 80
    • Chris
    • Derbyshire

    #1

    Primer Question

    Hi all,
    I apologise if this question has been asked before but I have a query about primers.

    When I prime my Warhammer vehicles/figures I use Citadel chaos black in a rattle can, I now have a 1/35 scale Tamiya British Churchill VII tank waiting to be built.

    My question is, can I prime the Churchill tank with my can of Citadel chaos black and then top coat it with Tamiya TS-2 dark green or will the 2 paints react because chaos black is acrylic and TS-2 is a synthetic lacquer.

    Also, once the top coat is fully cured can I use my Vallejo acrylics for detailing and weathering etc.

    Regards, Chris.
  • Tim Marlow
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 18910
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #2
    Originally posted by malvern_man
    Hi all,
    I apologise if this question has been asked before but I have a query about primers.

    When I prime my Warhammer vehicles/figures I use Citadel chaos black in a rattle can, I now have a 1/35 scale Tamiya British Churchill VII tank waiting to be built.

    My question is, can I prime the Churchill tank with my can of Citadel chaos black and then top coat it with Tamiya TS-2 dark green or will the 2 paints react because chaos black is acrylic and TS-2 is a synthetic lacquer.

    Also, once the top coat is fully cured can I use my Vallejo acrylics for detailing and weathering etc.

    Regards, Chris.
    It’s a definite yes for using Vallejo for detail painting over lacquer. I’ve been doing that for years.

    I’ve never used citadel chaos Black myself, though I have used diluted Tamiya jar lacquer over Vallejo and Army painter acrylic primers with no issues. It will need a light touch though. If you inadvertently flood the surface from the spray, the solvent will probably react badly with the primer.

    Best to practice first on a test subject (old plastic packaging or such) to see what happens I think.

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    • Jim R
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 15709
      • Jim
      • Shropshire

      #3
      Ditto to Tim's post. A lot of the problems with incompatible paint layers is down to not allowing enough time for paint to properly cure and/or, as Tim said, flooding on the paint.

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      • Guest

        #4
        Originally posted by malvern_man
        My question is, can I prime the Churchill tank with my can of Citadel chaos black and then top coat it with Tamiya TS-2 dark green or will the 2 paints react because chaos black is acrylic and TS-2 is a synthetic lacquer.
        Don’t forget that you can always test this sort of thing: take a piece of the kit’s sprue (one that’s devoid of parts), spray a bit of it with the Citadel paint, leave that to dry as you normally would, and spray the Tamiya paint over it.

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        • Scratchbuilder
          • Jul 2022
          • 2689

          #5
          You should be ok with the black as your primer. I have now changed to Mr Hobby black primer (airbrushed 50/50) and had no problems with it affecting any parts of my Scimitar. As Jakko said if in doubt use a bit of sprue or plasticard as your test piece.
          The question has been asked many times and we never get tired of answering it - even from experienced modellers that want to try out a new process. Click image for larger version

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          • malvern_man
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            • Sep 2023
            • 80
            • Chris
            • Derbyshire

            #6
            Thank you for your replies and the info.

            I needed to order a few items from the Scale Model Shop so I added a tin of Tamiya grey fine surface primer. I will try the Citadel primer/Tamiya top coat though on a piece of spruce.

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