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  • andy55
    • Sep 2023
    • 325

    #1

    Halfords Primer

    Just trying to get a couple of hours in before the kids and grandkids arrive.
    Have tried acrylic primer and didn't like it. So going to get some Halfords as seems a lot use it. However, is it the enamel primer or cellulose. If cellulose does acrylic paint take OK on it.
    Happy Christmas to everyone.
    Andy
  • Scratchbuilder
    • Jul 2022
    • 2689

    #2
    I use Hycoat from Azon this is a cellulose based primer and works ok. The other I use is the Mr Finishing Surface with their levveling thinner on a 50/50 mix. Got really tired of the acrylic primer and the cleanup, same with the paint and now turning back to enamels and lacquers.
    Happy Christmas to you
    Mike.

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    • BattleshipBob
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 6792
      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #3
      Hi Andy

      I have used the Halfords plastic primer a lot, very good. One bit of advice if that's ok.

      I use to fill up a old glass jug with warm not hot water. Then put the can in, leave to warm the can and of course the paint. Give good shake and repeat, worked a treat!

      I now use Mr surfacer 1500 thinned 50%, but no problem with Halfords.

      By the way Andy, about to order 3 D stuff, looks superb but could spend a fortune lol.

      That's it dinner in 10!!!

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      • Jim R
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 15670
        • Jim
        • Shropshire

        #4
        In the past I've used aerosol primer. I find the aerosol tends to flood if not very careful and is difficult to prime intricate areas with.
        Like Mike I don't get on with acrylic primers, Stynylrez being the exception, and have moved over to MTP lacquer.

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        • Ancientmariner
          • Feb 2018
          • 859

          #5
          Hi Andy,

          I use Halfords primer both etch and non etch on metals and plastic and have used acrylic, enamel and lacquer onto it with no issue at all. It's a great base particularly for items you want to be more durable such as wargaming figures or model trains etc.
          I would echo what Jim says re flooding, be patient and slow as it very quickly goes wrong if you're impatient. If spraying outside be careful as wind can change and greatly affect coverage so the same distance away suddenly floods to detail areas.

          ATB,

          James

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          • Ancientmariner
            • Feb 2018
            • 859

            #6
            Originally posted by BattleshipBob
            Hi Andy

            I have used the Halfords plastic primer a lot, very good. One bit of advice if that's ok.

            I use to fill up a old glass jug with warm not hot water. Then put the can in, leave to warm the can and of course the paint. Give good shake and repeat, worked a treat!

            I now use Mr surfacer 1500 thinned 50%, but no problem with Halfords.

            By the way Andy, about to order 3 D stuff, looks superb but could spend a fortune lol.

            That's it dinner in 10!!!
            Going to try this with the warm water

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            • andy55
              • Sep 2023
              • 325

              #7
              Hi guys, just about got rid eh humm, nearly all gone, will try and answer everyone but not got the hang of multi answers.
              Bob: like the idea of the warm water, will be in the garage to spray, another reason i want to use rattle cans. Yes can spend a fortune, but the stuff is well worth it.
              Mike: interesting, will try the Halfords, but bear in mind what you've said. Plus can gat the Halfords Wednesday. Yes I'm impatient. lol
              Jim / James: as I say will be spraying in the garage then bringing things into the house to dry. The old adage 2 or 3 coats are better than 1.
              I did try the Army acrylic primer, supposedly AB ready, damned stuff wouldn't go through the AB no matter how thinned it was. So decided to go with enamel.
              Thanks everyone for the help. Hope you all had a good day and looking forward to a happy modelling new year.

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              • Mr Bowcat
                SMF OG
                • Dec 2016
                • 4600
                • Bob
                • London

                #8
                Do you have an airbrush? If so I'd suggest decanting the Halfords primer, let it off gas and apply by AB.
                Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                • andy55
                  • Sep 2023
                  • 325

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
                  Do you have an airbrush? If so I'd suggest decanting the Halfords primer, let it off gas and apply by AB.
                  Have heard other people mention this. Doesn't the paint dry very quickly though and use a lot of paint...

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                  • Mr Bowcat
                    SMF OG
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 4600
                    • Bob
                    • London

                    #10
                    No, it would use less paint as you would be putting on more controlled, thinner coats, and drying time shouldn't be affected.
                    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      What I’ve never worked out is how you go about decanting paint from an aerosol can.

                      I’m sure it can be looked up online, but I’ve never actually bothered doing that

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                      • andy55
                        • Sep 2023
                        • 325

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jakko
                        What I’ve never worked out is how you go about decanting paint from an aerosol can.

                        I’m sure it can be looked up online, but I’ve never actually bothered doing that
                        I assume (oh you do do you) I assume you spray into a suitable container. Perhaps Mr Bowcat would come back to us both on that one. Please.

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                        • stona
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 9889

                          #13
                          I used Halfords Plastic Primer for a long time. I've fairly recently switched to the Hycote Plastic Primer, mainly due to easier availability. In all honesty there's not much in it, though I think that I get a smoother initial finish with the Hycote. That might be in my imagination!
                          In any case, both worked fine with acrylic and enamel paints as well as lacquer based media like Alclad. Make sure you shake the can thoroughly, really thoroughly, and allow time before painting over the primed model. I always leave at least 12 hours to make sure that the primer has properly 'gone off', give it a once over with a very fine grit paper (2500 or greater) to get that glassy finish, and then spray whatever is needed.

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Originally posted by andy55
                            I assume (oh you do do you) I assume you spray into a suitable container.
                            That’s what I’m picturing people doing too, but it always has me wondering how they do that without getting covered in spray coming back out of the container.

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                            • andy55
                              • Sep 2023
                              • 325

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stona
                              I used Halfords Plastic Primer for a long time. I've fairly recently switched to the Hycote Plastic Primer, mainly due to easier availability. In all honesty there's not much in it, though I think that I get a smoother initial finish with the Hycote. That might be in my imagination!
                              Halfords plastic primer, will get some tomorrow. Though won't be any sanding as its a tank interior.
                              Originally posted by Jakko
                              That’s what I’m picturing people doing too, but it always has me wondering how they do that without getting covered in spray coming back out of the container.
                              Yep, with you all the way there. Really can't see spraying into a 60ml bottle. Humm, rewind, really can't see spraying paint into a 60ml bottle.

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