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  • Mr Bowcat
    SMF OG
    • Dec 2016
    • 4600
    • Bob
    • London

    #16
    Ok, so get a straw or a piece of shrink tubing, and fit it over the nozzle. Put the other end in a suitable container (I use old tamiya paint jars, cleaned obviously, then spray out as much as you want. Leave the lid off for a few hours so that the propellant can off gas, then you are good to go.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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    • andy55
      • Sep 2023
      • 325

      #17
      Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
      Ok, so get a straw or a piece of shrink tubing, and fit it over the nozzle. Put the other end in a suitable container (I use old tamiya paint jars, cleaned obviously, then spray out as much as you want. Leave the lid off for a few hours so that the propellant can off gas, then you are good to go.
      So, as simple as that. Thanks will give it a try.
      Andy

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      • Scratchbuilder
        • Jul 2022
        • 2689

        #18
        Originally posted by Jakko
        What I’ve never worked out is how you go about decanting paint from an aerosol can.

        I’m sure it can be looked up online, but I’ve never actually bothered doing that
        Jakko, it involves using a tube from a disposable drink sachet which is about the same size as the rim around the nozzle. The top of the jar is sealed off with tape and you then push the tube through a small hole in the tape and gently spray into the jar from the can. Then you let it bleed off the gas.
        Only tried it once, spent the rest of the day wiping myself down as I forgot to hold the tube in place..... But there are plenty of tutorials on YT explaining the process.

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        • Jim R
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 15687
          • Jim
          • Shropshire

          #19
          There's probably a simple answer but why use Halfords primer rather than a dedicated modelling primer. Is it better or cheaper?
          MRP (lacquer) or Stynylrez (acrylic) are airbrush ready and work very well. Even if an airbrush isn't available there is Tamiya fine surface primer in aerosol which is very good.
          I know many swear by Halfords but I just wondered.

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          • andy55
            • Sep 2023
            • 325

            #20
            Originally posted by Jim R
            There's probably a simple answer but why use Halfords primer rather than a dedicated modelling primer. Is it better or cheaper?
            MRP (lacquer) or Stynylrez (acrylic) are airbrush ready and work very well. Even if an airbrush isn't available there is Tamiya fine surface primer in aerosol which is very good.
            I know many swear by Halfords but I just wondered.
            Just a case of giving it a try. As you say many swear by, so why not. Yes there are many dedicated ones so will probably get round to trying them as well.

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            • stona
              SMF Supporters
              • Jul 2008
              • 9889

              #21
              Originally posted by Jim R
              There's probably a simple answer but why use Halfords primer rather than a dedicated modelling primer. Is it better or cheaper?
              MRP (lacquer) or Stynylrez (acrylic) are airbrush ready and work very well. Even if an airbrush isn't available there is Tamiya fine surface primer in aerosol which is very good.
              I know many swear by Halfords but I just wondered.
              Generally non- model branded plastic primers are cheaper, sometimes a LOT cheaper.

              From your examples, you can get 473 ml of Stynylrez primer for about £28, compared with 400 ml of Hycote plastic primer for about £16. The Hycote is a fair bit cheaper (4p/ml compared to 6p/ml) and becomes a lot cheaper if you buy smaller amounts of the Stynylrez.

              It's a point illustrated by comparison with MRP's primer. I can only find 50 ml bottles at £6.50 which would make it £52 for 400 ml. The MRP would have to do something pretty spectacular to justify that, and in my experience it doesn't.

              I've never had any issue with either of the plastic primers I referenced (Halfords and Hycote). Whether they are better or worse than the branded items is going to be a matter of opinion, but they are at least as good as any I've used.

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              • andy55
                • Sep 2023
                • 325

                #22
                Well the weather has permitted me to get in the garage today to try the Halfords. Also decanted some (that was messy) as will brush paint smaller parts.
                Don't think it's done too bad a job for first time. Will need to get some thinners before using in the AB as white spirit was struggling to get it off my hands.
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                • Tim Marlow
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 18901
                  • Tim
                  • Somerset UK

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jakko
                  What I’ve never worked out is how you go about decanting paint from an aerosol can.

                  I’m sure it can be looked up online, but I’ve never actually bothered doing that
                  I just use a drinking straw sealed to the nozzle with blu tack. Works well! Amazing how much propellant gasses off though. I tend to decant it to a jar then leave the top loose for an hour or so until it stops bubbling. The paint solvent doesn’t gas off much because it isn’t as volatile.

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                  • Tim Marlow
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 18901
                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jim R
                    There's probably a simple answer but why use Halfords primer rather than a dedicated modelling primer. Is it better or cheaper?
                    MRP (lacquer) or Stynylrez (acrylic) are airbrush ready and work very well. Even if an airbrush isn't available there is Tamiya fine surface primer in aerosol which is very good.
                    I know many swear by Halfords but I just wondered.
                    In my experience, if the Halfords is still cellulose based it is pretty much identical to Tamiya, Mr Surfacer, Alclad, Zero, and others that are also lacquer primers. I used to use it a lot, but these days use Mr surfacer because it’s easier to use in an airbrush.

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                    • andy55
                      • Sep 2023
                      • 325

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                      I just use a drinking straw sealed to the nozzle with blu tack. Works well! Amazing how much propellant gasses off though. I tend to decant it to a jar then leave the top loose for an hour or so until it stops bubbling. The paint solvent doesn’t gas off much because it isn’t as volatile.
                      Yep, used a drinking straw but sealed with tape, well not sealed really the amount got on my hands. lol. I'm guessing it's still cellulose based as a right job using white spirit to clean up.
                      After reading a couple of other threads concerning paint booths and smells (I share the room with SWMBO) I'm thinking of trying one of the recommended acrylic primers.

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                      • Tim Marlow
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18901
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #26
                        Originally posted by andy55
                        Yep, used a drinking straw but sealed with tape, well not sealed really the amount got on my hands. lol. I'm guessing it's still cellulose based as a right job using white spirit to clean up.
                        After reading a couple of other threads concerning paint booths and smells (I share the room with SWMBO) I'm thinking of trying one of the recommended acrylic primers.
                        White spirit would only really clean up an enamel or oil based primer. Cellulose or acrylic wouldn’t be dissolved by it. I would expect the Halfords stuff to be acrylic these days, but could be wrong LOL. Most people seem to get on well with stynylres so I’d go with that if I were you.

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                        • andy55
                          • Sep 2023
                          • 325

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                          White spirit would only really clean up an enamel or oil based primer. Cellulose or acrylic wouldn’t be dissolved by it. I would expect the Halfords stuff to be acrylic these days, but could be wrong LOL. Most people seem to get on well with stynylres so I’d go with that if I were you.
                          Just tried the finger nail scratch test on the primer, not a mark, so don't know what it is. Certainly doesn't smell like cellulose.
                          OK just cleaned the brush I was using with it and it's cleaned, so must be acrylic. Shruggs shoulders...

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                          • andy55
                            • Sep 2023
                            • 325

                            #28
                            Just done the obvious, look on Halfords site, duh. It's acrylic base. So just need to perfect the decanting and jobs a good en. It does seem everyone has their go to primer. Had a look in the shop, and John say that the Stynylrez is discontinued.
                            Read a review on the Styn and they reckoned that the Mig One Shot was the same stuff...

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                            • Andy T
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2021
                              • 3239
                              • Sheffield

                              #29
                              Originally posted by andy55

                              Read a review on the Styn and they reckoned that the Mig One Shot was the same stuff...
                              Yes, it's the same stuff in a different bottle. There's a video around somewhere of a Badger factory tour where they confirm it.

                              UMP have rebranded it as well. They call it their "ultimate primer"

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                              • andy55
                                • Sep 2023
                                • 325

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Andy T
                                Yes, it's the same stuff in a different bottle. There's a video around somewhere of a Badger factory tour where they confirm it.

                                UMP have rebranded it as well. They call it their "ultimate primer"
                                So it's right. Never quite sure when you read these reviews just how old they are. A lot can change.

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