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  • scottie3158
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 14197
    • Paul
    • Holbeach

    #1

    Non slip patches

    Hello you fine bunch of people, I've come to pick your brains. What do you guys use to represent the non slip patches on modern armour.
  • Dave Ward
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 10549

    #2
    Never done it - but how about very fine emery paper, cut to shape & contact glued in place?
    Dave

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    • scottie3158
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 14197
      • Paul
      • Holbeach

      #3
      Originally posted by Dave Ward
      Never done it - but how about very fine emery paper, cut to shape & contact glued in place?
      Dave
      That was my first thought as well but with the backing paper it sits to proud.

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      • spanner570
        SMF Supporters
        • May 2009
        • 15376

        #4
        Paul.
        If required, mark out the area with a pencil.
        Carefully brush same with diluted PVA.
        Sprinkle silver sand (or any fine grit) through a sieve over area. Go easy, just cover the area lightly.
        Invert piece.
        Tap same.
        Turn piece right way up.
        Allow to dry and then paint.

        Works every time and dead easy.

        When I built my narrow boat I was shown this method of applying nonslip. Obviously in a much bigger scale than a small model, but the principle is the same. I've done it a few times with a kit and it really works.....and goes rock hard too!

        I hope the above is of some use to you. Have a practice first, perhaps?

        Ron

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        • scottie3158
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 14197
          • Paul
          • Holbeach

          #5
          Originally posted by spanner570
          Paul.
          If required, mark out the area with a pencil.
          Carefully brush same with diluted PVA.
          Sprinkle silver sand (or any fine grit) through a sieve over area. Go easy, just cover the area lightly.
          Invert piece.
          Tap same.
          Turn piece right way up.
          Allow to dry and then paint.

          Works every time and dead easy.
          Hi Ron I will give that a try thank you.

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          • spanner570
            SMF Supporters
            • May 2009
            • 15376

            #6
            Paul, I've just remembered. Budgie grit from a pet supplies is also a very fine grade and can be bought in smaller amounts than the sand I mentioned. You will have to sieve it though, to removed the oyster shells that are usually present in the mix. This grit is finer than silver sand and might be more to scale.

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            • Guest

              #7
              AFV Club sells a set of adhesive material with the right texture. I’ve not used it myself but I have seen it in action on someone else’s model, and it looks rather good:

              [ATTACH]506756[/ATTACH]

              (Model by Walter Jonkers)

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              • scottie3158
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 14197
                • Paul
                • Holbeach

                #8
                Originally posted by spanner570
                Paul, I've just remembered. Budgie grit from a pet supplies is also a very fine grade and can be bought in smaller amounts than the sand I mentioned. You will have to sieve it though, to removed the oyster shells that are usually present in the mix. This grit is finer than silver sand and might be more to scale.
                Cheers for that Ron.

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                • scottie3158
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 14197
                  • Paul
                  • Holbeach

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jakko
                  AFV Club sells a set of adhesive material with the right texture. I’ve not used it myself but I have seen it in action on someone else’s model, and it looks rather good:

                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]n[/ATTACH]

                  (Model by Walter Jonkers)
                  Thanks Jakko.

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                  • spanner570
                    SMF Supporters
                    • May 2009
                    • 15376

                    #10
                    Paul, you might just have something suitable in your 'Diorama' ground cover stash?

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                    • scottie3158
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 14197
                      • Paul
                      • Holbeach

                      #11
                      Originally posted by spanner570
                      Paul, you might just have something suitable in your 'Diorama' ground cover stash?
                      I will have to have a look I do have some fine foundry sand I will see if its fine enough.

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                      • Ian M
                        Administrator
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 18259
                        • Ian
                        • Falster, Denmark

                        #12
                        I think Ammo/Mig have a non-slip paint in their range
                        Group builds

                        Bismarck

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                        • Richard48
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 1886
                          • Richard
                          • Clacton on Sea

                          #13
                          Originally posted by scottie3158
                          I will have to have a look I do have some fine foundry sand I will see if its fine enough.
                          Hi Paul.
                          Rustoleum rattle cans have textured sprays.Bit of a faff maybe with areas to be masked but quite effective mate.
                          Rich

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                          • scottie3158
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 14197
                            • Paul
                            • Holbeach

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Richard48
                            Hi Paul.
                            Rustoleum rattle cans have textured sprays.Bit of a faff maybe with areas to be masked but quite effective mate.
                            Rich
                            Thanks mate I will bear that in mind.

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                            • Scratchbuilder
                              • Jul 2022
                              • 2689

                              #15
                              Not telling you.....:tongue-out2:
                              Oh! alright then.
                              Before you start apply masking tape or fluid to the parts you are going to work on so that the paste does not spoil the other surrounding area.
                              I use two methods...
                              1, I use the non slip paste from Mig Anti Slip but on my 1/35 I use the 1/72/48 A.MIG-2034. and a small cut down paint brush to apply it in a dabbing motion. I put a blob onto so scrap plastic and dip the brush into it and then apply it to the model.
                              This is for the non slip I use on my US vehicles.
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                              2, For my IDF vehicles I use the same paste but for 1/35 A.MIG-2035, is it slightly coarser and with that I also use a fine sand or the dust from a sand blasting machine that I 'liberated' some years ago. This gives the 'marbled' effect, but applied in the same way except that I sprinkle the 'dust' on before the paste dries. Give it a couple of minutes to settle and then turn the model over and give it a few taps to remove the loose 'dust'.
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                              And once happy with the area then move onto another area giving the one you have just applied time to dry.
                              VMS have brought out their version which comes with a glue which you brush on and then sprinkle the 'sand' over the still wet area. They do some videos on how to apply their products as they also have one that you can spray on through your airbrush - I have yet to use them but have given them a try except for the spray one.
                              Then once dry and all masking removed you can prime and paint as normal.
                              The 'dust'
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                              At the top is the 'sand' (egg timer size) and at the bottom the dust from the sand blaster after putting it through a sieve.
                              And the products I use/will be using...
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                              With the cut down brush.

                              Any questions just ask,
                              Mike.

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