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  • Guest

    #1

    Water block

    Hi to All!

    I want to do a block of solid "water" for my crashed SIG.

    At first, my intenttion was to do with "still water" of Vallejo.

    This product have several problems ... for a good transparent color it is necessary to go superimposing thin caps of product, if you do fast in one rapid time, the central part is never like dry and stays badly of visibility. The size of the block that I want to fill is big, to use this product supposes doing caps of 1 or 2mm every two days!!! In August I will be still to the half!! I have discovered that with the time it shrinks and deforms!!!(Shanina's dio, I will return after the battle)

    Someone of you have worked with resin or similar?? They are the sufficient thing be transparent to create water?? Have you some advice please??

    Best regards

    Polux
  • Ian M
    Administrator
    • Dec 2008
    • 18271
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #2
    If you are intending to cast the diorama into a block so that the whole thing is inside the resin you will need some thing like this. CASTING PLASTIC POLYESTER RESIN I don't know if you know off those paper weights you can often buy where a shell or a flower is set inside a solid block of resin....A good video on YouTube shows the


    In your case you would just need to mix it up and pour it in a mould.

    All resins shrink to some extent. some so little you dont see it, others... well we all know about that.

    Ian M
    Group builds

    Bismarck

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    • Guest

      #3
      Thank you very much Ian!!

      That is exactly what I'm looking for!!

      Thanks again.

      Polux

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      • Guest

        #4
        I have the product!!!!

        Spanish version.... But it's Ok!!! :smile11:

        I think I will use in the Smaug diorama too!!!!

        Thanks again Ian!!!

        Best regards

        Polux

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        • Ian M
          Administrator
          • Dec 2008
          • 18271
          • Ian
          • Falster, Denmark

          #5
          Post some pictures of how it goes. I'm sure it's not just me that would like to see how that works.

          Ian M
          Group builds

          Bismarck

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          • Guest

            #6
            i used some clear casting resin on my bridge over the river why dio and it does shrink a little but not to the extent that vallejo clear water does but it can be poured a lot thicker. it was called polylite clear casting resin and was purchased on e-bay from a guy in belfast,very fast delivery.

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            • Guest

              #7
              Originally posted by \
              Post some pictures of how it goes. I'm sure it's not just me that would like to see how that works.Ian M
              Will do Ian, I promise!

              When it fills the container with the resin and breaks the mold I will do photos that I will publish right here.

              If I discover tricks or failures the people they will know and be useful for all.

              Cheers

              Polux

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              • Guest

                #8
                Originally posted by \
                i used some clear casting resin on my bridge over the river why dio and it does shrink a little but not to the extent that vallejo clear water does but it can be poured a lot thicker. it was called polylite clear casting resin and was purchased on e-bay from a guy in belfast,very fast delivery.
                Many thanks Andrew!

                Here I found it in a normal paint shop!! They understand my quickly and give me some advice about it!!

                Dry so fast, isn't it?

                Regards

                Polux

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                • homechild
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 474

                  #9
                  I'm in the middle of a diorama build and I'm about ready for looking into the water now. Also have another one planned for a future build so I'm really interested in seeing what works.

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    polux..resist the temptation to put your finger on it to see if its dry, it leaves a lovely fingerprint. i found that the stuff was taking a good 24-36 hours before it was strong enough to touch without marking it, but i was pouring it very thick

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                    • papa 695
                      Moderator
                      • May 2011
                      • 22770

                      #11
                      Hi Pollux I'm also very interested in how the resin works good luck with it and looking forward to the outcome

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Originally posted by \
                        polux..resist the temptation to put your finger on it to see if its dry, it leaves a lovely fingerprint. i found that the stuff was taking a good 24-36 hours before it was strong enough to touch without marking it, but i was pouring it very thick[/quote:grinball1::grinball1:

                        You catch me!!! Thanks for the advice Andrew!!

                        I will try don't do it!!!

                        Well, I need some time before finish the work painting at Tilly, but just only starts with resin I will post the pics!!!

                        Thanks to all

                        Polux

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                        • Ian M
                          Administrator
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 18271
                          • Ian
                          • Falster, Denmark

                          #13
                          Remember easy on the Hardener. To much hardener in the mix and it will crack up. Seeing that you are in a nice warm land. I think it will also be smart to do it in the cool of evening.

                          Ian M
                          Group builds

                          Bismarck

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                          • homechild
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 474

                            #14
                            So, as discussed in another thread, Polux asked if I wanted to share this thread to show the differences with making water.

                            I am making a diorama featuring the Mekong River so it's pretty dirty looking. I wanted to know if adding some paint to it would change the hardening properties, etc, so I have started my experiment and have a photo below.

                            This was taken at 12:30 and shows two different tests. Both have 50ml of Polylite resin and 2ml of the supplied catalyst.

                            On the left is the clear resin, no paint added. You can see that it has a blue/green tint to it, it'll be interesting to see how transparent it goes.

                            On the right I have added 4ml of Tamiya acrylic Khaki.

                            It's quite warm today so have put it in the garden shed for the time being - it is VERY smelly!!!

                            I'll check on it again tomorrow and will update when there is a change.

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                            • homechild
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 474

                              #15
                              Okay, that was a lot quicker than expected.

                              Within an hour the clear one had gone transparent. After 3 hours, they were both relatively solid.

                              The one with the paint cured a lot quicker than the clear one. The clear one still failed the fingerprint test but the one with paint in it passed (as they were only for tests I thought I'd try this - plus I couldn't resist).

                              I guess the paint must have helped with the hardening process.

                              The only concern I have is that the plastic cup felt warm during the hardening and I'm now worried that this may melt the boat or blister the paint. Maybe someone could answer this.

                              Anyway, here are the photo's after 4 hours.

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