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**papa 695** · 03 June 2012, 19:46

A great test Drew but i don't think with it getting warm during the hardening it would cause any damage to your boat or it would have warped the thinner plastic cup

**homechild** · 04 June 2012, 09:01

I maybe should have said, the clear one looks pretty clear when looking down on it, just looks a little bit cloudy from the side. Almost 24 hours on and the clear one still fails the finger print test but the coloured one is solid.

That occurred to me after posting, Ian. I've managed to remove them from the cups and they were totally undamaged.

**Guest** · 04 June 2012, 18:45

thats queer because i tried mixing revell acrylics with it and just would not mix,did not think to try tamiya.well done you have given me some new ideas to play with,thanks

**Ian M** · 04 June 2012, 20:10

Is there not something about the resin don't cure in air. I remember seeing that you have to put something on the top so the resin hardens on the surface.

Ian M

**Guest** · 04 June 2012, 20:18

Hi Drew!! At first, thanks for share this theard with me (and all).

Hi hope to show nearly my information, still painting the Tilly and I don't start the block yet.

I have to questions; well... in fact I'm not sure if my translation of your text is Ok... You say are worried by the warm during the "dry time", and this could melt your boat!! I was thinking about it, and worried me too, remember my Tilly is under/inside the block!! But then, I remember some people put delicated pieces like dry plants or butterflys inside... Them I supouse nothing will happen!

The other is; the shopman proposed me to put oil in the walls of the container for, once the resin dries, this one was not sticking in his walls. Do you know if it is possible to take from the block that you have done with facility? There are problems?

Thanks again Drew for your great information and thread!!

Regards

Polux

**homechild** · 06 June 2012, 11:43

Hey Polux, sorry for the late reply.

I would definitely line your container with some sort of oil as I had to break the plastic cups to get them out.

I've now ordered some more so I can get moving with my river now!

**Guest** · 06 June 2012, 18:34

Hi to all!!

This evening I have painted and decorated Tilly. I wanted to end with it and to see everything made!! I believe have bad news!!! have done photos of the whole process where Tilly can meet the filling of the container and the dip of. My resin was blue (I put 3 drops of green Vallejo), to create a bit from color to dirty water. Everything seemed be OK ... and I have prepared my dinner, once I have eaten have looked as it was quite...

The container is melting!!!

The resin has increased of volume and is very, very warmly!!!

I cannot see Tilly, if any thing is that even it stays... Following Ian's recommendations, I have done the process by night and with few heat!!! I do not understand what it has happened!! The boat was of 750 ml and with his catalyst, my container was of this size, so it is not a problem of the catalyst (point had to put it).

I will wait to tomorrow!! But I am afraid the worst thing ... probably my Crashed SIG finishes this way.... I do not understand anything!!!

Regards

Polux

**Guest** · 06 June 2012, 19:23

got my fingers crossed for you polux. the resin i used never seemed to even get warm and it was mixed in thin plastic beaker which never even distorted. did you use the correct amount of catalyst.

**Guest** · 08 June 2012, 07:48

Here you have the photos of the process of "filling resin". I have many doubts still about knowing that it happened …. Several hypotheses:

Correct Resin? (There are people who says that there did not give heat and others if ….)

Probably the catalyst? (Many quantity? One was giving a small flask for the whole jar of resin ….)

The fact of putting 3 drops of painting Vallejo?

Probably was it a reaction with the different washes of painting with thinner not the sufficient thing dry?

They are many doubts, true, but my anxieties for creating this block will not finish here, I have lost a battle not the war.

I will look for another different product and I will try different options.

In the photos you can observe the clearest blue color once mixed and already black once again I dry, with the whole melted and spoilt container, and with Tilly …. Well ….where is it????!!!!

:fool:

Regards

Polux

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**papa 695** · 08 June 2012, 08:06

So Sorry for you Polux Just a thought if you have any resin left, try some with the moss/plants that you used with the Tilly just to see if it was them that made it dark . Allso try it without colour and good luck with the rest of the war

**Guest** · 11 June 2012, 16:43

Hi to All!!!

Here I publish the desatre in photos!!! Where Tilly is??? Be completely molten!!!!

I wait use as help for other persons who want to try this, I will trying it again!!! Sure!!!

Regards

Polux

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**Ian M** · 11 June 2012, 17:07

Dude I bet you really enjoyed whacking that with the hammer. I feel for you. The amount of work you put into the tilly and all.

I was wondering if it might of been a case of just to much resin in one go. It was a big lump!

If you have the resin I suggest a retry. Just a simple build painted with the paints you normally use. Then Just use the resin with a tiny drop of colour and pour it in several layers. A lot of work mixing it every time but it might be the solution.

A think I have been thinking of trying is the stuff you make 'jelly' candles with but I dont know what its made from.... Also the Vallejo clear water resin is worth a look but again not sure how well that will work in a big block.

Ian M

**homechild** · 11 June 2012, 20:50

I wondered if it may have been too much resin at once. If you're in no rush to do the river for your Smaug diorama I will be starting to create the river in my 'Nam diorama soon (as soon as the resin arrives).

I was planning on doing this in small stages (3-5mm at a time).

Fingers crossed it works!!

raying:

**Guest** · 11 June 2012, 21:34

the deepest part of my dio was about 18mm thick poured in one go, i had soldiers standing in the water allthough not that deep and there was no problems with heat or distortion to their legs. the catalyst had to be 1-2% only of the mix. i would imagine that if too much catalyst was added then this could possibly make it go off quicker and cause it to get hot. i would not know for sure ,i am just guessing.

**Guest** · 12 June 2012, 02:08

Hi mates!

I am thinking about all your comments!!

I believe that the principal mistake (probably) was a wrong management of the catalyst. And to this problem we add painting and not dry washes to 100 % and some of the added complements... Well, already you know the result.

Too much heat in a little time, the reaction was very violent!! As you comment I will return to try with a simple Kit, but I believe that with a big equal block, it is important to know if the size of the block influences the final result.

Thank you very much to help me guys!!! I will post my second experience early, I hope!!

Cheers

Polux

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