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  • Ian M
    Administrator
    • Dec 2008
    • 18266
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #16
    The Vallejo and the Alclad primers I use are ready to use. Shake, pour and spay, Job done.

    Ian M
    Group builds

    Bismarck

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    • Adrian "Marvel" Reynolds
      • Apr 2012
      • 3008

      #17
      Originally posted by \
      And smells! Vallejo primer is for all intents and purpose odour free. An other great primer is the one from Alclad, but that really pongs. Their white one is evil.Ian M
      I spray in a 10x13 foot metal shed with all mod cons, so I spray and go Plus for the amounts and results I get I'll live with Halfords primers.

      The Alclad black is really bad as well but not as aweful as their thinners

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      • Guest

        #18
        That sounds easy. Do you notice a difference if you don't use primer?

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        • Guest

          #19
          i have to do my spraying in our home so the "smell free" Vallejo is another plus for me.

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          • Ian M
            Administrator
            • Dec 2008
            • 18266
            • Ian
            • Falster, Denmark

            #20
            He He, I spray in the house as well and SWMBO was not amused when I primed the Underside of the Vixen with White Alclad primer. Even with an extractor going full tilt, it still stank the whole house out.

            The rest was primed with Vallejo today and she didn't even notice...

            Ian M
            Group builds

            Bismarck

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            • Guest

              #21
              Doggy. I use the majority of the time Vallejo Model Air or Model. With these I always use a Vallejo Primer & have not had any difficulties. But I am dedicated to cutting out all possible problems so compatibility is my password.

              It is easy to use & goes on very smoothly self levelling & is very forgiving if you over airbrush. It has a good grab to the plastic despite the fact that the coating is thin. It stands up well to wet & dry sanding. With its thin coating it has no effect on the model detail panel lines etc.

              Comes in about 10 colours now. £9:99 from the Scale Model Shop is a very competitive cost. This is for 200ml & will last a year & a day as it is very economical. Also available in 60ml containers. Both sizes have a droplet feed for easy dispensing straight into the Airbrush bowl. It is airbrush ready but I normally 20% thin especially the first mist coat. It will adhere to plastics & just about all metals.

              Go to Acrylicos Vallejo | Colores acrylicos. This will give you colour charts downloads instructions on use & a question & answer download on their products. They also have a first class Customer Service.

              Laurie

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              • Guest

                #22
                Thanks again. I think I'm looking at spending a few quid on paints. I have starter kits but I understand the paints arent very good for airbrushes.

                I'll make a list of the colours I need and order them.

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                • Guest

                  #23
                  If you're using very aggressive paint it can also melt the plastic, so the primer is used as a barrier between the plastic and the paint. Though this is mostly a concern when trying to achieve a glossy paint job for cars as the more serious builders use 2 component polyurethane paint. Dries really hard to make sanding and polishing a bit easier, but as I've said before it's aggressive.

                  That being said though I've only seen it happen twice, but thought I would share with people here anyway.

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                  • Guest

                    #24
                    Originally posted by \
                    Thanks again. I think I'm looking at spending a few quid on paints. I have starter kits but I understand the paints arent very good for airbrushes.I'll make a list of the colours I need and order them.
                    Doggy i would only buy the paint for your current model only. You may not like the paint type manufacturer you have chosen. You may end up with a collection you never use.

                    Like some one who has 50 Humbrol & 15 Revell pots now never used sitting there like clever dicks looking at me & smiling.

                    Laurie

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                    • Guest

                      #25
                      Hi again guys I'm looking for some more help.

                      I want to try the Vallejo white paint for a Mitsubishi Zero.

                      The Airfix starter set paint is numbered 90. On the Humbrol chart it's called biege green, it looks white in picture on the box.

                      My paper chart relates 90 to Vallejo 885, but thats not air is it?

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                      • BarryW
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 6010

                        #26
                        Doggy I am doing a Zero at the moment.

                        From what you have said you have a green camo which would have a grey underside.

                        The Vallejo paints I am using, based on various IJN comparative tables are as follows:

                        IJN Green 2 topside: Air 019

                        IJN Grey underside: Colour 989

                        IJN Green Grey cockpit: Colour 830

                        Wheel wells: I am using Gunze Metallic Blue Green

                        I am priming with Vallejo grey primer

                        These are good matches based on quite detailed research using several sites. Where Model Colour is being used I am thinning 50% with Vallejo thinners for airbrushing.

                        I hope that helps.

                        Sorry - just re-read your post and looked at 885 and it seems that you are doing an earlier Zero than me so my colours would be wrong. apologies. 885 is not Air, its Colour, but it will airbrush if properly thinned. The cockpit and wheel wells would be the same as I said above.

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                        • Guest

                          #27
                          Hi just gonna throw this in. If you have a smart mobile you can download the Hobby paint app for free it compares most paint types and it now has a measurement app as well eg 1/1 too 1/35 =

                          Martin

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                          • Guest

                            #28
                            its this one here.

                            Mitsubishi Zero Starter Set (A55102) Model Kit and Accessories by Airfix=

                            it looks white to me.

                            ill look for that app, sounds handy.

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Ok, Im geeting a better understanding now.

                              The air range isnt exhaustive? so we/you need to improvise a bit.

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                              • Guest

                                #30
                                It's really handy called 'hobby color converter'

                                Looks like a multi coloured pizza

                                Martin

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