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  • Guest

    #1

    Paint not sticking

    Hello

    Can one of you experts please advise me. I airbrushed with Vallejo primer yesterday and, as always, it gave a good coat. I masked part of the surface with Tamiya tape as usual. I sprayed an acrylic colour onto the unmasked area and this was fine. But when I removed the tape, some of the primer came away too. I've not had this before, that I can recall anyway. What could be the cause please?

    Thanks, as always.
  • Alan 45
    • Nov 2012
    • 9833

    #2
    I would say a finger print , the skin has oils and sometimes it can stop a pain from sticking , other reasons are humidity and heat can also do the same.

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    • Guest

      #3
      Thanks for replying Alan. It won't be finger prints. I always clean the surface with isopropyl and I always wear a glove on the hand I use to hold the model while spraying. I suppose it could one of the other two factors you suggest.

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      • Alan 45
        • Nov 2012
        • 9833

        #4
        Glad I could help , I have had another thought , could the primer been a little thick on the masking tape? If so it could just have dried to the tape and pulled off when you removed the tape , I've done that a few times when I've masked up , I remove the tape as soon as I've painted now

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        • BarryW
          SMF Supporters
          • Jul 2011
          • 6010

          #5
          How long did you leave the primer to cure before masking? ideally I leave it 24 hours but a bit longer when humid.

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          • Ian M
            Administrator
            • Dec 2008
            • 18264
            • Ian
            • Falster, Denmark

            #6
            Barry beat me to it. I too would of said that a "good coat" of primer would need a couple of days to cure.

            Been there done that. Its a pain init
            Group builds

            Bismarck

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            • Guest

              #7
              I left it 24 hours gentlemen, I suppose I must be more patient though 'patience is for the dead'

              Thanks for all of your input. I've stripped it and will re-prime and leave it for 48 hours.

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              • Andy2035
                • Aug 2011
                • 730

                #8
                Hi Adrian,

                I had a similar problem a while back when I was trying to paint one of my die-cast cars, I tried leaving it for just over a week and yet it still did the same thing, finally the only way I managed was to build the coats up slowly, each one was a mist coat and I left it for a good couple of days between each one...

                Another thing, how long have you had the primer, you could try dropping Vallejo an e-mail via here...: - http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/contact

                Explain to then what you have done/tried etc and see if they can come up with anything, they are really helpful and friendly...

                Andy...

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  How did you prepare the surface Aidan ? I always wet & dry with 1200 or 1500 before applying any paint to a plastic surface so that the primer can bite.

                  Also you say you gave it a good coat. I first, with primer, apply a mist coat well diluted say 60 30. Then I apply a full coat of primer but still say 10% thinners.

                  Leave about 12 hours mist coat & full coat then a good 24 hours drying. I have never masked primer. I put the main finishing colour on first overlapping the area of demarcation for the adjoining colour. When that is dry then I mask over the finishing coat.

                  Thinking about it not a good idea to mask over priemer at all as it is not such a fine coat as the top coats. I would also think you can get creep under tape as you will not get such a good seal with primer.

                  Laurie

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    I prepared the surface in my normal way Laurie. I think masking it was the problem. I had not masked primer before. Still a learning curve.Thanks to all who have offered suggestions.

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