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    Solvent For Hairspray

    I am reading about using the hairspray technique for weathering rust. It apparently needs to be airbrushed on. What is the solvent for hairspray please? (Needed for cleaning the airbrush).


    I will also be experimenting with using salt crystals. Anyone got any tips or finished pics using the methods (I know the basic steps to follow). Results I have seen can be very authentic.


    Thanks.
  • Guest

    #2
    Umm why airbrush the hairspray on Steve? Most people just spray it directly from the can. You're not aiming for a super fine finish as you would with paint. It's just a barrier between each coat of paint.


    However, if you do decant it then water is sufficient, or any other regular airbrush cleaner. I've used windscreen wash fluid.

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    • Guest

      #3
      Originally posted by \
      Umm why airbrush the hairspray on Steve? Most people just spray it directly from the can. You're not aiming for a super fine finish as you would with paint. It's just a barrier between each coat of paint.
      However, if you do decant it then water is sufficient, or any other regular airbrush cleaner. I've used windscreen wash fluid.
      I read somewhere that the force of the spray might dislodge the salt chips. However, I will go for applying direct from the can. (Now for the embarrassment of buying the stuff!)


      Thanks.

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      • Gern
        SMF Supporters
        • May 2009
        • 9211

        #4
        Originally posted by \
        (Now for the embarrassment of buying the stuff!)
        Thanks.
        You could always ask Tony (Yakface) for advice on that Steve! Betcha he spends more time looking for bits and pieces (tweezers, cutters, sanders, decorative bits for lenses etc etc) on the cosmetics counter than his missus does!

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        • Guest

          #5
          Originally posted by \
          I read somewhere that the force of the spray might dislodge the salt chips. However, I will go for applying direct from the can. (Now for the embarrassment of buying the stuff!)
          Thanks.
          I just mist it on from about 6 to 10" away - the spray isn't that forceful.


          Go to your local Poundshop... no-one in there will care a hoot

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          • Gern
            SMF Supporters
            • May 2009
            • 9211

            #6
            Originally posted by \
            I just mist it on from about 6 to 10" away - the spray isn't that forceful.
            Go to your local Poundshop... no-one in there will care a hoot
            So how come I keep getting those funny looks?

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            • Guest

              #7
              Can I use enamel/lacquer paints with hairspray technique?

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              • Guest

                #8
                Originally posted by \
                So how come I keep getting those funny looks?
                That's just your aftershave!

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Originally posted by \
                  Can I use enamel/lacquer paints with hairspray technique?
                  Absolutely Leo! I've done it with Humbrol enamels, Tamiya thinned with cellulose thinner & Humbrol enamel rattle cans.


                  The usual advice to test before committing to an expensive kit still applies though...

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                  • PaulTRose
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                    • Jun 2013
                    • 6454
                    • Paul
                    • Tattooine

                    #10
                    Originally posted by \
                    I read somewhere that the force of the spray might dislodge the salt chips. However, I will go for applying direct from the can. (Now for the embarrassment of buying the stuff!)
                    Thanks.
                    why are you using salt?


                    you are mixing two different techniques there
                    Per Ardua

                    We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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                    • yak face
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 13826
                      • Tony
                      • Sheffield

                      #11
                      As Dave says i regularly trawl the cosmetic aisle for all sorts of stuff , ive found the hairspray works fine straight from the tin , either as a pigment fixer or used between coats to enable the top coat to be scrubbed off after . Paul is right too , if youre doing the salt technique then the hairspray isnt really necessary as well . Cheers tony

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Originally posted by \
                        why are you using salt?
                        you are mixing two different techniques there
                        You'r right. I have been lookingh at videos of rust techniques and I got muddled. I will first try the salt method.


                        Here's what looks like a good video:





                        and this one for the hairspray method:





                        The voice on the second says that it gives a useful 3D effect which I think the first does not. Perhaps the first could have some very fine grains (sand or something coarser than talcum powder any ideas?, my next model will be in 1/24 scale) sprinkled on to the rust coat and perhaps lightly coated with mat varnish (or hairspray) to fix them before the colour coat is applied. Practice will decide.

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Originally posted by \
                          Absolutely Leo! I've done it with Humbrol enamels, Tamiya thinned with cellulose thinner & Humbrol enamel rattle cans.
                          The usual advice to test before committing to an expensive kit still applies though...
                          So, the sequence is like this? Correct me if i'm wrong


                          1. paint (rust color)


                          2. Hairspray


                          3. Base paint (whatever color)


                          4. Wait until dry then appLy the technique?!


                          Do i wipe it with water or enamel thinner?


                          I really want to try this method. Thanks in advance Patrick

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Originally posted by \
                            So, the sequence is like this? Correct me if i'm wrong
                            1. paint (rust color)


                            2. Hairspray


                            3. Base paint (whatever color)


                            4. Wait until dry then appLy the technique?!


                            Do i wipe it with water or enamel thinner?


                            I really want to try this method. Thanks in advance Patrick
                            That's pretty much it. Don't wait too long after applying the coat over the hairspray or it can be difficult to remove. The length of time varies a lot; paint type, brand, age of the paint can all play a part, so there's no hard & fast rule.


                            I use warm water & a toothbrush to scrub the paint off.


                            Having said all that (!) I don't use the hairspray technique for rust anymore! Because of the variables involved, I find sponge chipping the best method. It allows for greater control & you can see the results as the work progresses.


                            The hairspray & salt techniques only allow you to see the result once it's done - sometimes that's too late to realise it's not how you wanted it to look.

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                            • papa 695
                              Moderator
                              • May 2011
                              • 22770

                              #15
                              Originally posted by \
                              So, the sequence is like this? Correct me if i'm wrong
                              1. paint (rust color)


                              2. Hairspray


                              3. Base paint (whatever color)


                              4. Wait until dry then appLy the technique?!


                              Do i wipe it with water or enamel thinner?


                              I really want to try this method. Thanks in advance Patrick
                              Warm water works best but you can do it with cold it just takes longer for it to work

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