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  • SteveH
    SMF Supporters
    • Apr 2018
    • 1287

    #16
    Hi Bob

    I found the book I was thinking about, which gives a 2 photo explanation, from Adam Wilder's painting and finishing book II, excellent by the way

    The pictures are for reference only and are better than a 1,000 words LOL

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    As it has already been said by Steve J and others, create your own style, whatever you are happy with.
    It's the fun part of the hobby.

    Steve H

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    • rtfoe
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 9065

      #17
      Originally posted by SteveH
      Hi Bob

      I found the book I was thinking about, which gives a 2 photo explanation, from Adam Wilder's painting and finishing book II, excellent by the way

      The pictures are for reference only and are better than a 1,000 words LOL

      Extreme modulation
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      Extreme weathering
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      As it has already been said by Steve J and others, create your own style, whatever you are happy with.
      It's the fun part of the hobby.

      Steve H
      Yup, that's it Steve H. The extreme modulation can be quite wierd if left untreated with tints, filters and weathering. Works best on large flat surfaces with monotone paint schemes. I still suck at it with this amtrack I did...



      Still too subtle.

      Cheers,
      Richard
      Attached Files

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      • BattleshipBob
        SMF Supporters
        • Apr 2018
        • 6785
        • Bob
        • Cardiff

        #18
        Good god chaps i need to go back to school but seeing and learning a lot!

        Pleased i seem to be on the right track but a few more miles to go lol

        Will give proper modulation a bash but seems to be a lot of paint mixing lol

        Thanks all for the up front opinions, exactly what i wanted:thumb2:

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        • BattleshipBob
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 6785
          • Bob
          • Cardiff

          #19
          Steve / Richard

          Would the many different darker panels be on panels more in the shade and the varoius lighter ones more in sunlight!!!

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          • Steve Jones
            • Apr 2018
            • 6615

            #20
            Absolutely. Best way to do it is set up a lamp next to your model and see how the light creates areas of shadow and light

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            • Allen Dewire
              SMF Supporters
              • Apr 2018
              • 4741
              • Allen
              • Bamberg

              #21
              Morn Bob,

              You just keep going Buddy as you are doing one heck of a job!!! Slam that puppy into 5th gear, give gas and go for it man!!!

              Me and my Pastel sticks are creeping along just fine…...

              Prost
              Allen
              Life's to short to be a sheep...

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              • boatman
                SMF Supporters
                • Nov 2018
                • 14449
                • christopher
                • NORFOLK UK

                #22
                WELL Bob I don't know about all this modulation in fact this is the first I ever heard of it but what you have done looks ok to me
                chris

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                • SteveH
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 1287

                  #23
                  Morning Bob

                  Having a Pz I track break.

                  The light effect is loosely based partially on Zenith light which is, if the light is at 12 o'clock, how the shadows fall, lightest at the top darkest at the bottom, not necessarily light in the centre then getting darker to the edge.

                  Hope that makes sense?

                  Next ,

                  If you used the track guards to split a vehicle in 1/2, lower and upper, the modulation on the lower 1/2 goes the opposite way, as it lightest at the hub caps and darkest under the track guards by the body of the tank.

                  Next

                  As each flat surface is broken, by a plate at a different angle, the edge can be light on the top edge of th lower plate edge and darker on the other lower edge of the upper edge, usually running vertically, but its more about focusing on the break between plates.

                  This older DVD does a good job showing you about modulation in a simple way, it might even be on You Tube?

                  Vallejo AFV painting techniques

                  As both of my current projects will be a single block colour, Panzer Grey, I'll do one with extreme modulation and one with extreme weathering just for practise and experimentation and the best reason

                  FUN LOL

                  Hope its getting a little less like ""as clear as mud""!

                  Steve H

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                  • BattleshipBob
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 6785
                    • Bob
                    • Cardiff

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steve Jones
                    Absolutely. Best way to do it is set up a lamp next to your model and see how the light creates areas of shadow and light
                    Why did i not think of that Steve, Do'h

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                    • BattleshipBob
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 6785
                      • Bob
                      • Cardiff

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SteveH
                      Morning Bob

                      Having a Pz I track break.

                      The light effect is loosely based partially on Zenith light which is, if the light is at 12 o'clock, how the shadows fall, lightest at the top darkest at the bottom, not necessarily light in the centre then getting darker to the edge.

                      Hope that makes sense?

                      Next ,

                      If you used the track guards to split a vehicle in 1/2, lower and upper, the modulation on the lower 1/2 goes the opposite way, as it lightest at the hub caps and darkest under the track guards by the body of the tank.

                      Next

                      As each flat surface is broken, by a plate at a different angle, the edge can be light on the top edge of th lower plate edge and darker on the other lower edge of the upper edge, usually running vertically, but its more about focusing on the break between plates.

                      This older DVD does a good job showing you about modulation in a simple way, it might even be on You Tube?

                      Vallejo AFV painting techniques

                      As both of my current projects will be a single block colour, Panzer Grey, I'll do one with extreme modulation and one with extreme weathering just for practise and experimentation and the best reason

                      FUN LOL

                      Hope its getting a little less like ""as clear as mud""!

                      Steve H
                      Excellent Steve very well explained. Many thanks

                      It may come as a surpruse but I have 4 Stugs, 1 in primer so will try the method of adding before the top coat and 3 in panzer grey, it can only go wrong lol

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