A question of scale.

[adt70hk]

Not only that Dave, but the acrimony between the groups was actually quite toxic at times. I was sworn at and mocked several times for just saying I was a P4 modeller at general exhibitions. Didn’t worry me, I just laughed and moved on. There are some very strange people in the model railway world, utterly self obsessed.
Never understood it myself though…..we were all just playing with toy trains…..I just used to go to exhibitions and look for the good bits and peruse the trade stands. It was much less stressful

Thanks for the above explanation Tim.

I actually went to an exhibition last weekend, my first every one and was surprised at all the different scales. I, like most people my age, had a Hornby layout (still in the the loft BTW).

I only went because my wife works for the church we go to.. It's not a nice looking building at all as it's a large converted warehouse. Whilst the outside is a non-descript box, the inside has been converted into a modern, multipurpose conference centre - not at all 'churchy' but immensely practical. She is actually the Conference Centre Manager, which is how I found out about it.

The main auditorium can seat almost 600 people plus another large hall next door and so there was plenty of room for all manner of layouts and trade stands...everything from O gauge and possibly larger down to N gauge. It did take me down memory lane!!

As for "very strange people", you're not wrong......very strange is an understatement!

It had been agreed that the exhibitors could come in the day before and set up and then gain access to the building at 8am on the morning of the show.

That though was apparently not good enough for one exhibitor who decided to force open a door early so that he and a number of cronies could set up!! That's right, he broke into the building!

Now, the last time I checked breaking and entering was a criminal offence.....and by the time my wife got there 10 minutes ahead of the 8am entry, the alarm was going off and any number of exhibitors were setting up.....

....oh and they had taken it upon themselves to call the security company and say everything was ok........very strange people as you say!!

ATB

Andrew

[Tim Marlow]

Now that’s new. I’ve never heard of that before :surprised: . I think your wife must be pretty tolerant, because I would have told the miscreant and his cronies to sling his hook and take his layout with him. Not only that, if the security company had taken their word that nothing was amiss and hadn’t investigated I may well look for another. It’s exactly the same as burglars telling the security company not to worry isn’t it.
Must say though, I ran the local P4 and EM group (Sarum Finescale, still going I think) for a number of years in the nineties when I was a member, and they were a great bunch of guys with none of these tendencies. Very like this forum in fact! I only gave it up because I lost interest in modelling and became a born again guitarist.
Last word, I know we don’t criticise others work on here, and long may it continue, but the ones I found were worst at the interpersonal stuff were not actually very good modellers….

[adt70hk]

I think my wifge was taken aback....if that had been me I would told him to sling his hook.....I did used to be one of the trustees a few years ago and if I had still have been one I think I would have been very tempted to throw my weight around.

She did have words with the security company.....there is a process to verify the caller and they did not follow it......as you say they could have been anyone!

Thanks again for the info on the scales.....the most coherent - and understandable - explanation I have come across.

ATB

Andrew

[Guest]

if the security company had taken their word that nothing was amiss and hadn’t investigated I may well look for another.

That was exactly my first thought. A security company that just believes a random caller on their word is not one you want to give your money to. The company should have phoned a number supplied to them by their customer to tell them an alarm has gone off.

[stillp]

She did have words with the security company

I'd have had words with them - two words, the second being 'off'!

Pete

[JR]

I'd have had words with them - two words, the second being 'off'!

Pete

Surely not you Pete !

[stillp]

Surely not you Pete !

You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!

[Gary MacKenzie]

You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!

But he's always angry ------ just before he takes out the massive flying alien in Avengers

[Tim Marlow]

Thanks again for the info on the scales.....the most coherent - and understandable - explanation I have come across.

ATB

Andrew

I can do more if you like…..that’s just the 1/76.2 scale ones. There are hundreds of others, well, probably not but it feels like it .
The narrow gauge stuff gets the most confusing…..OOn3 anyone….that’s OO scale (4mm or 1/76.2) bodies on N gauge (12mm gauge) track modelling a 3 foot gauge prototype railway…….great for the Isle of Man stuff…..

[Tim Marlow]

I can do more if you like…..that’s just the 1/76.2 scale ones. There are hundreds of others, well, probably not but it feels like it .
The narrow gauge stuff gets the most confusing…..OOn3 anyone….that’s OO scale (4mm or 1/76.2) bodies on N gauge (12mm gauge) track modelling a 3 foot gauge prototype railway…….great for the Isle of Man stuff…..

….and…..I got that wrong LOL…..

The description is correct, but it’s OO bodies running on TT track……not N gauge track (which is 9mm gauge).

The little n just stands for “narrow”, a descriptor used for any track gauge less than 4 foot 8 and a half inches….if you’ve been to mid Wales you’ll know what I mean…..

I‘m stopping now….my head hurts

[adt70hk]

That was exactly my first thought. A security company that just believes a random caller on their word is not one you want to give your money to. The company should have phoned a number supplied to them by their customer to tell them an alarm has gone off.

I'd have had words with them - two words, the second being 'off'!

Pete

Now that’s new. I’ve never heard of that before :surprised: . I think your wife must be pretty tolerant, because I would have told the miscreant and his cronies to sling his hook and take his layout with him. Not only that, if the security company had taken their word that nothing was amiss and hadn’t investigated I may well look for another. It’s exactly the same as burglars telling the security company not to worry isn’t it.
Must say though, I ran the local P4 and EM group (Sarum Finescale, still going I think) for a number of years in the nineties when I was a member, and they were a great bunch of guys with none of these tendencies. Very like this forum in fact! I only gave it up because I lost interest in modelling and became a born again guitarist.
Last word, I know we don’t criticise others work on here, and long may it continue, but the ones I found were worst at the interpersonal stuff were not actually very good modellers….

A short clarification.....

I aksed my wife about this earlier and the security company actually came out in person to discuss the break in prior to my wife's arrival and were obviously satisfied with the explanation upon arrival.

The church will have incurred a cost due to the security firm's call out....which I imagine will be passed on to the organiser.


Dave Gern....sincerest apologies for completely hijacking your thread.

[Gern]

Dave Gern....sincerest apologies for completely hijacking your thread.

Don't worry about it. Most threads seem to get hijacked in some form or another and the hijackings are always informative or funny - what would we do without them? Good stuff!

[Gern]

I'm on the scrounge for info - again!

I'm looking for some OO or 1/76 doctors/scientists and some engineering figures (Not car mechanics or railway track workers). I've spent the last three days looking and had no luck - althought there seem to be plenty in HO or OO/HO scale.

Can any of you figure guys point me in the right direction please?

[rickoshea52]

Try Preiser or Noch.

[Tim Marlow]

Try Preiser or Noch.

They’ll be 1/87 Rick…..continental HO outline I’m afraid.